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Old 01-06-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Tears of a Clown. Reminds me of a song.

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Old 01-06-2016, 07:12 PM
 
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It was -1 deg in Chicago on New Years Day, cold temps reduce crime. There were 10 killed and 55 shot in Chicago on July 4th.

Does the Cold Stop Crime? It Seems So - NBC News
The inverse is true, warmer temps produce cold bodies. Only in Chicago.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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That depends.

The 2014 murder rate shows:

1) Flint, Michigan
2) Detroit
3) NOLA
4) Jackson, Mississippi

Chicago comes in at # 21
You are being misleading, perhaps unintentionally.

Chicago has led the country in murder for 4 years straight.

Chicago is the 3rd largest city with many very nice areas with little crime. The city of Flint itself, does not really have nice areas and Flint is very small in comparison to Chicago. You can easily find areas inside Chicago the size of Flint with a higher murder rate than Flint.

This is because although Chicago has many upper class and middle class neighborhoods, it also has a very large area of poverty and high crime.

The bad parts of Chicago are bigger than Flint and just as bad or worse than Flint.



Flint has 99,000 people and 34 square miles.

Chicago has 2,722,000 people and 234 square miles.

You can find an area in Chicago much larger than Flint with a higher or commensurate murder rate. Chicago has areas just as bad as any place in the USA, period. It is a distortion to say otherwise.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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2 dead, 15 wounded in city shootings - Chicago Tribune


Sun, rain, or snow, you can always count on Chicago to produce a body count. Are any of these shooters going to be called "domestic terrorists"? How many of those guns do you suppose were bought through the "gun show loophole".
Counton obama to search his thesaurus for a word to minize these murders and then tell us if a dad has to get a license and do a background check to hand a gun down to his kid, the murders would not have happened.


NJ requires a firearm id complete with FBI checked fingerprints, release of medical records then if you want a pistol, you go through the process again. when you go to pick up your gun from an FFL they do a check against your driver's license against the NICS natiional crime database to see if you were charged, have trial pending, or others charges since you were approved 30 or 60 days before you were cleared.


As a result of these tight gun laws more peoplke are convicted of administrative violations while the statistical death rate in Newark is 2 plus a week. Used to be an unbroken string of a murder a month which has somehow increased to 2 plus a week as gun regs became stricter.


Easy to see, guns are not the problem. the problem is gangs, drugs and drug users along with dreamer activists that are willing to sacrifice lives for their future goalof no private gun ownership becuase of hurdles set so high. This way they can say we are not after your guns.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Obama's new gun laws will put an end to all that shooting.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:36 PM
 
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You are being misleading, perhaps unintentionally.

Chicago has led the country in murder for 4 years straight.

Chicago is the 3rd largest city with many very nice areas with little crime. The city of Flint itself, does not really have nice areas and Flint is very small in comparison to Chicago. You can easily find areas inside Chicago the size of Flint with a higher murder rate than Flint.

This is because although Chicago has many upper class and middle class neighborhoods, it also has a very large area of poverty and high crime.

The bad parts of Chicago are bigger than Flint and just as bad or worse than Flint.



Flint has 99,000 people and 34 square miles.

Chicago has 2,722,000 people and 234 square miles.

You can find an area in Chicago much larger than Flint with a higher or commensurate murder rate. Chicago has areas just as bad as any place in the USA, period. It is a distortion to say otherwise.
To add something to this, if Chicago annexed some of it s adjacent western suburbs with lower crime rates, the city population would increase, and the per capita crime would decrease, but conditions will remain the same in the existing warzones. That makes the per capita argument that the Chicago boosters use disingenuous and easily manipulated to fit a narrative. It doesn't have much to do with reality, and the reality is that Chicago has to address the issues that cause the murders. Those have little to do with availability of guns, so anyone who wants to say "Indiana is right next door", spare your breath. Chicago is sick internally.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: 53179
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Like I'm sure many people already said, only a few selected parts of Chicago are "dangerous". You just have to be street smart, pay attention to your surrounding.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:58 PM
 
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Like I'm sure many people already said, only a few selected parts of Chicago are "dangerous". You just have to be street smart, pay attention to your surrounding.
For starters, avoid Englewood, Austin, West and East Garfield Park, North and South Lawndale, Back of the Yards, and Woodlawn.
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Old 01-06-2016, 08:17 PM
 
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For starters, avoid Englewood, Austin, West and East Garfield Park, North and South Lawndale, Back of the Yards, and Woodlawn.
You could add:

Burnside
Washington Park
Greater Grand Crossing
Riverdale
Roseland
Humboldt Park

Etc...

Only 16 of Chicago's 77 Neighborhoods has a murder rate TEN TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE or higher.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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It was -1 deg in Chicago on New Years Day, cold temps reduce crime.
It was 32 degrees on the 1st, not -1 degree, wtf, lol
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