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Old 01-04-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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That people are required to identify with color as an identity in the U.S. is problematic. Color labels were instituted precisely to make people of non-European origins the opposite of whites (in fact, color labels were forced on people of African origin). But that was the doing of whites...

...just like this article was written by someone white.
So Africans weren't considered black or Negro until the White man said so? OMG, that's hilarious.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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So Africans weren't considered black or Negro until the White man said so? OMG, that's hilarious.
This cannot be a serious question.

Africans identify by ethnic group/tribe, even until this day.

Do you really think that a Yoruba man would walk up to an Igbo like, hey "black" brother? Hahaha, please.

No one carried any "black" identity until Europeans. Ther were no "black" people brought to the U.S. or the Americas in general. There were over 45 different ethnic groups brought to the U.S.

Hell, even Somali model, Iman, has stated one has to "learn" to be "black" when coming to the U.S.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So apparently last year (2014) pretty much all the Oscar awards for best film entertainment went to "white" people. This created quite a stir in the politically correct leftist fantasy world of Hollywood. They all crinkled their foreheads and promised to do better next (this) year (2015).

In order to compensate, it now appears that this year the Oscars may be decided in many cases based on skin color and public perception surveys rather than on who the best performers are. In fact, the nominations are shaping up to be predominately "white" again.

What will the priority be here? To award the best actors and actresses based on their skills, their artistic merit and their achievement? Or to kowtow to the leftist values of political correctness? If this article at the LA Times is accurate, it will almost certainly be the latter.

To be fair, I have not been to a movie in an actual movie theater in years, so I am not a good person to judge who the best actors and actresses are or what the best movies were in 2015. Perhaps this very liberal Hollywood crowd is sincerely discriminating against black actors based on their skin color. Who am I to say?

But if it is somehow the case that nearly all of the very best actors and actresses this year had low levels of melanin in their skin, should they be discriminated against because of that? I certainly do not think so.

Radical idea - Perhaps these awards should be awarded based on merit and not on skin color, either way.
Give anyone who wants an oscar an oscar. If you don't you might cause someone to be upset.
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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This cannot be a serious question.

Africans identify by ethnic group/tribe, even until this day.

Do you really think that a Yoruba man would walk up to an Igbo like, hey "black" brother? Hahaha, please.

No one carried any "black" identity until Europeans. Ther were no "black" people brought to the U.S. or the Americas in general. There were over 45 different ethnic groups brought to the U.S.

Hell, even Somali model, Iman, has stated one has to "learn" to be "black" when coming to the U.S.
Learn to be black meaning African American because they will be turned on by American Blacks if they don't. BTW, it was a serious question. You black people blame every single thing on white people, enough is enough already, it's disgusting and completely racist.
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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One of the questions should be: where are all the black writers/producers/directors to tell black people's stories (other than slavery/civil rights ones)? Spike Lee and John Singleton can't be doing all the heavy work. Tarantino made one of the best 'black' movies recently (Django Unchained) and got critizied for it because, tah-dah!, he's white. Spike Lee was bitter because Tarantino made the kind of revenge film Lee dreamed about making but didn't. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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If it so happens that whites did better in a year with acting, why should they be denied due to color? That would be racist IMO.

Do we complain about racial inequality in sports? I don't see a lot of short Jews or small Asians represented in Football or Basketball.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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Learn to be black meaning African American because they will be turned on by American Blacks if they don't. BTW, it was a serious question. You black people blame every single thing on white people, enough is enough already, it's disgusting and completely racist.
GET OVER IT ALREADY. Color identities are yours. It is your culture or lack of, more appropriately.

I am not African-American and the WHOLE WORLD knows that the white/black nonsense comes out of Europe. Stop trying to push and pass off your race-based culture on others.

It was a seriously DUMB question. You want to be mad about being white? Then battle that out with your ancestors.

Color is obviously the extent of your culture. But that's not the case for the rest of the world...especially not people of African origin. Never has been and never will be.

Again, get over it.

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Old 01-04-2016, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Instead of fretting about the awards, they should ask themselves why they don't cast many minorities in lead roles of good movies.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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If we're being truthful, the only people who complain about this are blacks. I've YET to hear any Hispanic person complain that there aren't enough Hispanics in movies or that there aren't enough Hispanics being nominated for awards. If all the Oscar nominees happen to be white, so what? If no blacks are nominated, it's not an intentional slight on blacks. This whole idea that you "need to" nominate non-white people otherwise you are a racist is pretty absurd. It's political correctness gone mad.

I think the problem lies in the fact that a lot of today's blacks were raised by parents/grandparents who grew up in the pre-civil rights era, and therefore that's why they see certain things as "racist". If the Oscar nominees all happen to be white, that's not racism.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Here's a problem I see.

Back a while I went to a movie and happened to mention it the next day at work as being quite good. The response I got was: "But that's a Black film."

To me, a good film is a good film. I don't care if it has a mostly White or a mostly Black cast. If I see an all-White cast or an all-Black cast I do get uncomfortable, because that's not what I see as life in America today.
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