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Old 01-06-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
I've lived in two countries with well-working UHC. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why no one - absolutely no one - in any other country holds up the US model as one to emulate?

You have the highest administrative overhead and the highest overall cost. You're being had. To the point where those taking you in have you singing their praises.

(A year's salary to buy an air conditioner? Dude, dial it back. Convincing agitprop should be at about 8-10 on the scale where you're hitting several hundred.)
All perfectly true, and well said. The power of propaganda, coupled with the Dumbing Down of America, continues to have a large segment of society rooting against themselves

 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Maybe Obama will just sign it this time

And people wonder why people support Trump.....

I don't know if its number 56, but there had been over 30 last year this time, so its close enough.
Trump promises to repeal and replace the ACA with something wonderful that will take care of everyone.
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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how wonderful--- and lovely... and sweet---
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
I've lived in two countries with well-working UHC. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why no one - absolutely no one - in any other country holds up the US model as one to emulate?

You have the highest administrative overhead and the highest overall cost. You're being had. To the point where those taking you in have you singing their praises.

(A year's salary to buy an air conditioner? Dude, dial it back. Convincing agitprop should be at about 8-10 on the scale where you're hitting several hundred.)
Thank our Democrats who have a lawyer lobby that prevents tort reform, so doctor have to pass on the costs of ridiculous liability insurance payments and massive costs of government over-regulation.
People under socialism are not aware of the massive value added taxes they live under. They pay through their noses for insurance.
In 2003 over 70,000 Europeans died from heat related causes. Can't afford that AC.
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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The GOP is fixing the problem, by getting rid of Obamacare. It is not the gop's fault Obama won't sign it.
Getting rid of the ACA doesn't "fix" anything. All it does is take healthcare insurance out of reach for people who can't get it through their employers. The trend in business right now is toward less employees and more independent contractors, people who have no access to healthcare through their work. How does taking that away from a growing segment of the population "fix" anything?
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Detroit, MI
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Originally Posted by RCCCB View Post
Thank our Democrats who have a lawyer lobby that prevents tort reform, so doctor have to pass on the costs of ridiculous liability insurance payments and massive costs of government over-regulation.
People under socialism are not aware of the massive value added taxes they live under. They pay through their noses for insurance.
In 2003 over 70,000 Europeans died from heat related causes. Can't afford that AC.
Again, source?
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Getting rid of the ACA doesn't "fix" anything. All it does is take healthcare insurance out of reach for people who can't get it through their employers. The trend in business right now is toward less employees and more independent contractors, people who have no access to healthcare through their work. How does taking that away from a growing segment of the population "fix" anything?

More people were able to afford health care before Obamacare, Obamacare has drastically increased the cost of insurance for the average person.

Healthcare before Obamacare was far from perfect, but it sure was better than now.
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Again, source?
Look up a site source on Google.

Try 70,000 dead from heat Europe.

The massive value added taxes are known to anyone who travels. We go by ships and all the crews buy out of America in Florida due to the rip off taxes even the poor pay in Europe for all that free socialism.
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump promises to repeal and replace the ACA with something wonderful that will take care of everyone.
Of course. His health care system will be AMAZING, and BEAUTIFUL
 
Old 01-06-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Detroit, MI
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Originally Posted by RCCCB View Post
Look up a site source on Google.

Try 70,000 dead from heat Europe.

The massive value added taxes are known to anyone who travels. We go by ships and all the crews buy out of America in Florida due to the rip off taxes even the poor pay in Europe for all that free socialism.
"In France, 14,802 heat-related deaths (mostly among the elderly) occurred during the heat wave, according to the French National Institute of Health.[4][5] France does not commonly have very hot summers, particularly in the northern areas,[6] but seven days with temperatures of more than 40 °C (104 °F) were recorded in Auxerre, Yonne during July and August 2003. Because of the usually relatively mild summers, most people did not know how to react to very high temperatures (for instance, with respect to rehydration), and most single-family homes and residential facilities built in the last 50 years were not equipped with air conditioning. Furthermore, while contingency plans were made for a variety of natural and man-made catastrophes, high temperatures had rarely been considered a major hazard."

Literally the first link I found.

Also, source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wave

Yes, using wiki as a source.
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