The Establishment May Actually Lose Control of the Republican Party This Time Around.
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Plus Brown in CA is pushing a "premium tax" on those not getting subsidies in order to shore up the state fund that covers subsidies. Even though this is a state initiative it will make the ACA appear to be even more of a wealth transfer. Gee, wonder if Brown had not given illegals free health insurance, would this tax be needed?
It's almost as if you have to be wealthy or dirt poor. If you're just making it, but not dirt poor, ouch.
No amount of Establishment backing and big money, is helping this time around.
As congress goes, so does the candidates to run for the highest office.
Looks like Conservatives, have had enough of the Establishment taking over the show. Bush, McCain, Romney, progressive socialist types, need not apply this time around.
Indeed. We are living in, as Juan Williams put it, the Age of Ron Paul. It'll take us time to collectively become cognizant of it and for its full effects to bloom, but we are truly within it.
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Originally Posted by armourereric
Plus Brown in CA is pushing a "premium tax" on those not getting subsidies in order to shore up the state fund that covers subsidies. Even though this is a state initiative it will make the ACA appear to be even more of a wealth transfer. Gee, wonder if Brown had not given illegals free health insurance, would this tax be needed?
Hmm...talk about a middle-class squeeze.
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Originally Posted by LINative
I love the fact that the establishment is so upset. They thought they were going to set us up with another Bush-Clinton match so that whoever won the 2016 race - nothing would really change.
I especially like to see Jeb Bush squirming. Typical do nothing politician. Now if we could just knock off Hillary Clinton next!
I second that - establishment big money may have overreached when they decided on another Bush and another Clinton in the same election, right after their Obamney farce of 2012. It has been said recently that campaign financing and the donor class, once the dark secret of politics, is now common knowledge. I'd add that merely a decade ago it was a dark secret, and now both the GOP front-runner and a strong Democratic challenger are basing their entire campaigns on opposing it.
I second that - establishment big money may have overreached when they decided on another Bush and another Clinton in the same election, right after their Obamney farce of 2012. It has been said recently that campaign financing and the donor class, once the dark secret of politics, is now common knowledge. I'd add that merely a decade ago it was a dark secret, and now both the GOP front-runner and a strong Democratic challenger are basing their entire campaigns on opposing it.
There never was the problem as described. Much of it was politicians trying to place the blame on others.....
"It's not our fault we are totally incompetent and doing exactly the opposite of what we promised......you can't blame us...it's "dark money".
No amount of Establishment backing and big money, is helping this time around.
As congress goes, so does the candidates to run for the highest office.
Looks like Conservatives, have had enough of the Establishment taking over the show. Bush, McCain, Romney, progressive socialist types, need not apply this time around.
And Dole, don't forget Dole.
And the Koch Brothers are not happy with republicans this time around.
If you say “money in politics” to the average person, there is a good chance they’ll immediately think of the Koch brothers — especially if they’re of a more liberal bent.
Think how awful it must be to be a billionaire and not be able to buy an election UNLESS you support a democrat and are the likes of George Soros.
Big Message to Koch Brothers - Hillary is still for sale!
The problem is that it would not allow you to differentiate much between Democrats and Republicans. They'd all be wearing pretty much the same special interest logos, and not one of them would represent the average American voter.
More like the head of true constitutional conservatives, a group which has shrunk and been replaced by the fascist, war mongering neo cons.
It was shrunk long ago. Remember, the first official Progressive, was a Republican Teddy Roosevelt and the King of Progressives and their god, Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat. Progressive Hover, a Republican. and FDR a Democrat..... Let the perpetual machine run.
True Constitutionalist were wiped out after the Civil War. When the government showed the people, who really had all the power all along.
Originally Posted by mikeyyc We should just elect the special interests directly.
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Originally Posted by svendrell
Now THAT is an idea. They could have logos put on their suits, like NASCAR racers have their suits covered in racing logos - identifying which special interest they represent. Let's just cut to the chase.
Yea, this has been suggested many times. At least we'd know who their sponsors are.
The reality is that all elections should be funded by only those who are to be represented. Presidential candidates shouldn't be able to take any foreign money. Representatives, Senators, and state candidates shouldn't be able to take money from any entity not within their state, and so on down to the local level.
Problem solved, sponsors all but gone.
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