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Old 01-08-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Instead of the Obama spew perhaps we should look at some real numbers and facts before we surrender a constitutional right?

This just out 8 JAN , 2016

US BECOMING SAFER COMPARED TO EUROPE IN BOTH FATALITIES AND FREQUENCY OF MASS PUBLIC SHOOTINGS: US NOW RANKS 11TH IN FATALITIES AND 12TH IN FREQUENCY

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“But we are the only advanced country on Earth that sees this kind of mass violence erupt with this kind of frequency. It doesn’t happen in other advanced countries. It’s not even close. And as I’ve said before, somehow we’ve become numb to it and we start thinking that this is normal.” –President Obama, announcing his new executive orders on guns, January 7, 2016

This claim is simply not true.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Instead of the Obama spew perhaps we should look at some real numbers and facts before we surrender a constitutional right?

This just out 8 JAN , 2016

US BECOMING SAFER COMPARED TO EUROPE IN BOTH FATALITIES AND FREQUENCY OF MASS PUBLIC SHOOTINGS: US NOW RANKS 11TH IN FATALITIES AND 12TH IN FREQUENCY
Also in group sexual assaults. Europe is going to run away with that one due to their immigration and refugee policies unless of course Obama is able to do the same here.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Give it time. We have to catch up to Europe in terms of mass importations of these migrants.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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Now now now, we have to listen to President Obama and ignore rational critical thinking and facts. Because he is liberal and black. If we don't agree, we are far right extremist that are racist.

I notice that website has photos of some real leaders. Especially that sheriff on the top left, he is a black sheriff from MN I believe, and a Democrat, that supports and understands the 2nd Amendment.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Don't worry someone will be along soon to say "that's just a right wing blog" "it doesn't mean anything" "gunsgunsgunsguns" "they have a small penis" "you can't just compare the US to other countries" and an unlimited number of other excuses why reality doesn't match their world view.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Instead of the Obama spew perhaps we should look at some real numbers and facts before we surrender a constitutional right?

This just out 8 JAN , 2016

US BECOMING SAFER COMPARED TO EUROPE IN BOTH FATALITIES AND FREQUENCY OF MASS PUBLIC SHOOTINGS: US NOW RANKS 11TH IN FATALITIES AND 12TH IN FREQUENCY
Says CrimeSearch.org, any footnotes on where they got those stats, US or EU? We have a mass shooting the highest per capita gun homicide rate.
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Good news. I assume you'll be giving Obama some credit for the low crime numbers?
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't worry someone will be along soon to say "that's just a right wing blog" "it doesn't mean anything" "gunsgunsgunsguns" "they have a small penis" "you can't just compare the US to other countries" and an unlimited number of other excuses why reality doesn't match their world view.
You beat me too it, yes it's a 501c3 John Lott site disguised as serious research. I would love to know who their donors are, but if it tells you want to hear who am I to question.
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Instead of the Obama spew perhaps we should look at some real numbers and facts before we surrender a constitutional right?

This just out 8 JAN , 2016

US BECOMING SAFER COMPARED TO EUROPE IN BOTH FATALITIES AND FREQUENCY OF MASS PUBLIC SHOOTINGS: US NOW RANKS 11TH IN FATALITIES AND 12TH IN FREQUENCY
What? According to that link, in 2009-2015, there were 19 mass shooting attacks in the entire EU and 25 in the USA. One attack in Paris (130 killed in Nov 2015 - 40% of all EU deaths) puts the EU above the US in # of deaths
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Old 01-09-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: California
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This is bull! USA has ten times more shootings then europe. If you only count the mass shootings of 5 or more victims then your playing with numbers and with headlines!
Why not count the shootings were 2 people died or maybe 3. Then the USA would run away with the homicide title of the world, Europe wouldnt even register a quarter of that!
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