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Old 01-11-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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Dissatisfaction with the status quo and recognizing the failure of government, is a net positive. The question is what do these groups propose in its place?
This is a good question.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I agree.

Hope and Change!

How'd that work out? Worst president ever!
Worst president ever? Is that sarcastic or lack of presidential history knowledge?
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You call that using the race card? That's a different take on things.
You want to use the race card? Try organizing a group of black Americans, armed with their own weapons, and train them in organized domestic tactical warfare.
Let the DOJ catch wind of that.

Government is way more violent than the people ever have been.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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These groups have flown under the radar the last decade but they have not gone away. The ATF classifies them as Violent Anti-Government (VAG) or domestic terrorists.


"Domestic Terrorism
Domestic right-wing terrorist groups often adhere to the principles of racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory beliefs. Generally, extremist right-wing groups engage in activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action.
On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as the National Alliance, the World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat. Although efforts have been made by some extremist groups to reduce openly racist rhetoric in order to appeal to a broader segment of the population and to focus increased attention on antigovernment sentiment, racism-based hatred remains an integral component of these groups’ core orientations.
Right-wing groups continue to represent a serious terrorist threat. Two of the seven planned acts of terrorism prevented in 1999 were potentially large-scale, high-casualty attacks being planned by organized right-wing extremist groups.

The second category of domestic terrorists, left-wing groups, generally profess a revolutionary socialist doctrine and view themselves as protectors of the people against the “dehumanizing effects†of capitalism and imperialism. "


https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/t...-united-states

So, it is the ATF that has outlawed Militias, not Congress with an amendment to the constitution, disabling and amendment that clearly says, it shall not be infringed. The people have the right to Militia. Not according to ATF.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You would have loved the Black Panthers.

I have no problem with the Black Panthers like you do. I have a problem when someone gets violent with me.

Intimidation only effects the weak, like you.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Check your US History, Militias have been around for a long time (1700's).First one's started in New England and Penn. See Whiskey Rebellion (1794)


The government needs to crack down on them once they start looking like Bundy and Tarp guy. The locals do not want them and the 2 guys in jail want to do their time and go home.

Bundy's Dad needs to pay his bill or go to jail.

Try organizing and training an armed population in domestic tactical warfare. Militia.
You will quickly be labelled by the government as a domestic terrorist, to sway the public that you are the evil one.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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I don't think the government needs to sway the public - the public already view these folk for what they are #Y'allQaeda

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Try organizing and training an armed population in domestic tactical warfare. Militia.
You will quickly be labelled by the government as a domestic terrorist, to sway the public that you are the evil one.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Worst president ever? Is that sarcastic or lack of presidential history knowledge?

The President is the last stand, before the 2nd amendment, to preserve the constitution.

The problem comes when it becomes the presidents job 1, to destroy it by constantly breaking it.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't think the government needs to sway the public - the public already view these folk for what they are #Y'allQaeda
They do not get to take our right to militia away, without amending the US constitution. On an amendment that says it cannot be infringed by amendment.... So, they take it anyway.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The President is the last stand, before the 2nd amendment, to preserve the constitution.

The problem comes when it becomes the presidents job 1, to destroy it by constantly breaking it.
So are you saying you lack presidential history knowledge? That is the case if you think Obama is the worst president ever......
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