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Old 01-13-2016, 05:39 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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19 TRIL DROP IN THE BUCKET
Sure. My grand children will be able to handle that just fine, and will thank me.

 
Old 01-13-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
Really? The only "vision" he has is of America's decline.
Really? "Saved the economy?" When? We're "healthy" now? Who knew? >$18T in debt. Is that "healthy?" And family incomes are down, while their insurance bills have skyrocketed.
You made a lot of points. I'll take one at the time.

"$18T in debt. Is that "healthy?"

What is the problem here?
 
Old 01-13-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Obama the best President. Yeah sure, if you consider the destruction of any respect left for the office of President. The destruction of middle class health services. The loss of more gun rights, second only to the Clinton years. The country holding the greatest debt in history, and the impossibility of any fix other than kicking the can as long as possible until the house of cards collapses.

Amos and Andy would have made better presidents.
 
Old 01-13-2016, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by bawac34618 View Post
And the 1980s was more fiscally conservative than today? Please. Reagan was one of the worst debt Presidents in history up until that time.
The Democratic-controlled Congress spent, on average, 2.8% more than Reagan asked for. And 24.5% more over 8 years.

Every balanced-budget Reagan presented to Congress was declared DOA by (Democrat) Tip O'Neill.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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History will respectfully and rightfully document President Obama As A Great President, one who did many great things to help and restore economic uplift, and use diplomacy as a respectable tool in dealing with the world community.
He will be noted as not a hate monger, nor will it be that he was a brash shoot from the hip havoc maker, but one who used intellect and wisdom to work with the world community.

He was given the Nobel Peace Prize because he averted a economic war which may have led to a physical war, after the Bush Administration, Banks and Wall Street swindled so many nations and caused economic chaos on a global scale. But that is something Republican will never acknowledge, because doing so would mean, they'd have to acknowledge the GRAND DEBACLE of the Bush Administration and Republican led ideology which damaged the world economy and destabilized the Middle East and caused Terrorist to Spread like a wild fire across the globe.

(1). He will be acknowledge positively for a (ACA) National Health Care program and linking it positively with the existing Medicare and Medicaid programs, which ALL TOGETHER, has helped millions of American's get needed health care.

(2). He will be acknowledged as one who killed the lead terrorist Bin Laden, with the basics of a Seal Team and did not blow up two or more countries and cost TRILLIONS of dollars to do so.

The list of his works will be many, as well as History will Record the Malice of the Republican Pledge which served to do nothing but damage and hurt the American People, It will record the many negative acts of Republican which has led to the contentions and havoc which plagues the people, and insults the nation on a level of negatively impacting the American people.

(3). History will also record the billion dollars Republican spent trying to buy the election and the result of President Obama winning by a SECOND landslide victory over their madness and aims to usurp the American people with excessive spending trying to buy away the voices of the people.

(4). History will record how the bigots and racist tried to use covert means to cover up their demeanor and driving attitude by trying to claim everything the President did was negative, when fact is and remains they refuse to look within themselves to see and know the motivations of their own hatred.

There is much that is already recorded of the madness- and then the circus of the Republican Candidates who spin in multiple array's and circle's of extremism, all pursuing to invoke their negativity of aims to try and become President.

When the facts are laid out side by side, of the mess of Bush and the Accomplishments of President Obama to have to fix the messes, the future generations will know and regard him as one who was and is the right man for the Presidency at this time, day and age in the continuing realism of America.

No amount of right wing hatred can remove those elements and facts from the history our future offspring's will read and learn. If anything, the future generations will look back and wonder how all these "RIGHT WINGER" Antebellum Minded Confederate Ideologist even remained in the 21st Century with their age old bigotry.

(5). The future generations will acknowledge how these current day "RIGHT WINGER" Antebellum Minded Confederate Ideologist groups fought the future and tried to roll back a nation to the 1950's and then became vile and anguished because the world and the people chose to continue moving forward.

The list goes on and on of the positives- which will show and demonstrate to the new coming generations, the good works of President Obama and it certainly will record the debacle the Right Winger made to give Congress such a distasteful tonality.

Last edited by Chance and Change; 01-16-2016 at 08:28 AM..
 
Old 01-16-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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Think about the OP's headline.


It thinks Carter was a better President than Obama.


lol
 
Old 01-16-2016, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
History will respectfully and rightfully document President Obama As A Great President, one who did many great things to help and restore economic uplift, and use diplomacy as a respectable tool in dealing with the world community.
He will be noted as not a hate monger, nor will it be that he was a brash shoot from the hip havoc maker, but one who used intellect and wisdom to work with the world community.

He was given the Nobel Peace Prize because he averted a economic war which may have led to a physical war, after the Bush Administration, Banks and Wall Street swindled so many nations and caused economic chaos on a global scale. But that is something Republican will never acknowledge, because doing so would mean, they'd have to acknowledge the GRAND DEBACLE of the Bush Administration and Republican led ideology which damaged the world economy and destabilized the Middle East and caused Terrorist to Spread like a wild fire across the globe.

He will be acknowledge positively for a (ACA) National Health Care program and linking it positively with the existing Medicare and Medicaid programs, which ALL TOGETHER, has helped millions of American's get needed health care.

He will be acknowledged as one who killed the lead terrorist Bin Laden, with the basics of a Seal Team and did not blow up two or more countries and cost TRILLIONS of dollars to do so.

The list of his works will be many, as well as History will Record the Malice of the Republican Pledge which served to do nothing but damage and hurt the American People, It will record the many negative acts of Republican which has led to the contentions and havoc which plagues the people, and insults the nation on a level of negatively impacting the American people.

History will also record the billion dollars Republican spent trying to buy the election and the result of President Obama winning by a SECOND landslide victory over their madness and aims to usurp the American people with excessive spending trying to buy away the voices of the people.

History will record how the bigots and racist tried to use covert means to cover up their demeanor and driving attitude by trying to claim everything the President did was negative, when fact is and remains they refuse to look within themselves to see and know the motivations of their own hatred.

There is much that is already recorded of the madness- and then the circus of the Republican Candidates who spin in multiple array's and circle's of extremism, all pursuing to invoke their negativity of aims to try and become President.

When the facts are laid out side by side, of the mess of Bush and the Accomplishments of President Obama to have to fix the messes, the future generations will know and regard him as one who was and is the right man for the Presidency at this time, day and age in the continuing realism of America.

No amount of right wing hatred can remove those elements and facts from the history our future offspring's will read and learn. If anything, the future generations will look back and wonder how all these "RIGHT WINGER" Antebellum Minded Confederate Ideologist even remained in the 21st Century with their age old bigotry.

The future generations will acknowledge how these current day "RIGHT WINGER" Antebellum Minded Confederate Ideologist groups fought the future and tried to roll back a nation to the 1950's and then became vile and anguished because the world and the people chose to continue moving forward.
Two-time Obama voter here. I haven't agreed with all his policies or rhetoric, but I do agree with much of what you've said here. Good post.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Best president at dividing the country and making it even more partisan. Even he recognizes it if his out of touch, fawning sycophant supporters don't.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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Two-time Obama voter here. I haven't agreed with all his policies or rhetoric, but I do agree with much of what you've said here. Good post.
If by "good post" you mean "angry, unhinged rant" then yes, I agree, quite good.

And I also agree that Obama is fabulous. Suing banks for not giving people loans that they're unqualified for (what could ever go wrong?). Suing banks for giving people loans that they aren't qualified for. Trying to control which race of people live in which neighborhood. Supporting policies that treat people differently based on which race or ethnicity they happen to be. When a terrorist attack happens on our soil he make it a priority to chastise us for "islamophobia." All good stuff.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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Best dressed? He did bring Mom Jeans back in style.
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