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Old 01-13-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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Strong economy, no wars. A relatively good era before Dubya came along and wrecked it, leaving it all for Obama to clean up.
Dubya wasn't the one who set up the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac nonsense along with the banking rules that caused the financial mess.

If you care to remember, Dubya was at least calling for additional oversight of Freddie and Fannie while people like Barney Frank told us how wonderful Freddie and Fannie were and in what great financial shape they were in. We were essentially told that additional oversight while giving out billions upon billions in crappy loans would be racist.


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Old 01-13-2016, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Barney Frank was the ranking member on the House committee. Meaning he led the minority caucus.

History lesson: Pubs held the House from 1994 - 2006. Frank and the Dems were in the minority. Nothing got through congress that wasn't either Pub legislation or Pub approved. Speaker Hastert (currently trying to squirm out from under a sexual perve scandal) controlled the agenda for those years. That was Pub policy.

Sorry to spoil your rant with a dose of reality.

But you get noogie points for deflection.

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Old 01-13-2016, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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Yes, America was once great. It no longer is. Up until around 1965, we were doing very well as a country. There were many jobs that propelled people into the ranks of the lower middle class (such as factory, work, meat processing plants). Families were able to do well on one income. Whether or not you had a college degree, you knew that you could find honest work---much of which paid well enough.

We also had about 200 million people, which meant less traffic, more open land and better quality of life. Communities were more cohesive.

In 1965, Ted Kennedy introduced an immigration bill that was based on chain migration. He said that it wouldn't change this country at all. Before this bill was passed, we were in a period of reduced immigration, which worked very well. Allowing fewer people in meant that it was easier for newcomers to find work without displacing any Americans. Also, when you have immigration in small numbers, people in communities who received a new immigrant family would rally around them to help them adjust.

Slowly, things eroded. Ted Kennedy had lied. Chain migration changed the country in profound ways. Also, in the past 50 years, we've allowed 1 million legal immigrants per annum. After the disastrous 1986 amnesty, we've since been flooded with untold millions of illegal aliens. Then the H1-B visa was created and sold to the public with this message---there was (supposedly) a shortage of American citizen STEM/IT workers so H1-Bs would be brought in on a temporary basis. Once the supposed "shortage" was resolved (more and more Americans majored in STEM/IT fields), then there would be no need for H1-Bs. Instead this visa program morphed into something horrible. It's now being used to blatantly displace Americans. Not to mention so many Indians who came on H1-Bs and later got green cards are now in a position to hire so they discriminate against non-Indians.

All these actions have eroded the middle class and the quality of life. Many middle and working class neighborhoods have been destroyed by illegal immigration. We have politicians on both sides of the aisle who have allowed these problems to fester and put illegal aliens ahead of Americans.

Trump is shining a light into dark corners and addressing the elephant sitting in the room. Anyone who thinks he is all talk and nothing else, should take the time to research where he stands on the issues. Should he be elected, could he do everything he wants to do? That remains to be seen. However, if he is able to accomplish even a fraction of what he wants to do, then we will be on the way to recovery.
So back to 1965, you before civil rights legislation and most major legislation guaranteeing equal pay for equal work?
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Old 01-13-2016, 04:04 PM
 
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America really was great before.
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Old 01-13-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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Just curious - Trump says let's make American Great Again - when was the last time it was great?

1988
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Old 01-13-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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just curious - trump says let's make american great again - when was the last time it was great?

1988

1964.
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Old 01-13-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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So back to 1965, you before civil rights legislation and most major legislation guaranteeing equal pay for equal work?
Ummm what?

The Civil Rights Act passed in 1964.

Did I say everything was perfect? No. However, in many ways, it was far, far better. All people who are reasonably intelligent can see that we now have reduced quality of life and have a middle class that's fast losing ground. Illegal aliens have displaced many poor and working class Americans in the work force and depressed wages. Not to mention as to how many once cohesive neighborhoods (both black and white) have been destroyed by illegal immigration.
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Old 01-13-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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Ummm what?

The Civil Rights Act passed in 1964.

Did I say everything was perfect? No. However, in many ways, it was far, far better. All people who are reasonably intelligent can see that we now have reduced quality of life and have a middle class that's fast losing ground. Illegal aliens have displaced many poor and working class Americans in the work force and depressed wages. Not to mention as to how many once cohesive neighborhoods (both black and white) have been destroyed by illegal immigration.

Agreed, and we have allowed in far too many legal immigrants IMO from cultures that are not compatible with ours and they don't fully assimilate.
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Old 01-13-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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Illegal aliens have displaced many poor and working class Americans in the work force and depressed wages. Not to mention as to how many once cohesive neighborhoods (both black and white) have been destroyed by illegal immigration.
Yeah. It's really sad when people in America can't get jobs cause of illegals. You can like see it happening. Hopefully next term will fix that.
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Old 01-13-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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So back to 1965, you before civil rights legislation and most major legislation guaranteeing equal pay for equal work?

You forgot the civil rights acts of 1866, 1875, 1957 and the unconstitutional and ill conceived 1964 where private property and freedom association rights was discarded and private behavior was compelled, but probably worse of all later lead to forced outcomes and reverse discrimination. Legislation from 1964 onwards was a process of how we got to become an overpopulated, open borders, open trade globalist and multicultural America where winners and losers and outcomes are picked by government and that is no longer great.


To hear a leftist tell it America before 1970 was 1850.
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