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Old 01-18-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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A big misunderstanding of the recent cover-up of the assaults in Europe is that such cover-up is meant to protect refugees and Islam, avoid the further demonization of Islam and Muslims, and to avoid racism toward muslims.

Think twice and you see the obvious mistakes.

1. When you avoid talking about A in the context of B, or outright covering it up, you have implied that A and B are connected. You made a conscious decision to avoid a conversation, but you first would have to know the connection, believe in it; otherwise, you wouldn't have successfully avoided it. By covering it up, the European governments have essentially made a conscious effort in connecting refugees, muslims, and even islam directly with the assaults. this implied behavior shows deep-seated racism and islamophobia in european governments.

2. When you try to make someone's crime seem lighter, you respect neither the criminal nor the victim. If your own child and family, whom you love and care about, did something like this, you would be horrified, persuade them to change, for their own sake and others. if you love a man and respect him, would you want him to assault others and would you easily forgive or cover it up? you wouldn't if you love him. But when you view a group of people as "the other," you may not care about it much. you lower your expectations because a) you care about them less, if at all, and b) you think they are inferior, thus deserving special moral discount. in both cases, covering it up and easing its severity through good press or no press is precisely a form of discrimination. its roots are found in hundreds of years of european perceptions and fantasies about non-european, non-white peoples. they are found in european assumptions of what non-europeans can or cannot do, where non-europeans need to be told or be forgiven. it reinforces a racial and religious hierarchical structure where the white europeans are at the top, while the muslims of color are "exotic," "different," "otherly."

The governments of Europe have essentially accepted islamophobia and racism.

 
Old 01-18-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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What kind of twisted logic is that? If Western governments were 'islamophobic" and not islamophilic and were racist against non-Europeans instead of against Europeans, then they would not allow any immigration from the middle east in the first place.


Of course they know the immigrants are garbage and harmful. But they hate the white natives and that's why they bring foreigners in and hide the results and ban opposition to immigration.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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What kind of twisted logic is that? If Western governments were 'islamophobic" and not islamophilic and were racist against non-Europeans instead of against Europeans, then they would not allow any immigration from the middle east in the first place.


Of course they know the immigrants are garbage and harmful. But they hate the white natives and that's why they bring foreigners in and hide the results and ban opposition to immigration.
to answer your first question, you didn't get what i meant.

opposing immigration can be considered racist. but allowing it doesn't just make you un-racist.

racism and discrimintaion are an attitude. it has little to do with switch-on-off policies.

when you use a discount standard to judge others, such as covering up crimes, you have placed these people on a secondary status as opposed to the regular standard you use for others.

the only way that you can cover up these things is when you already don't respect the people involved. you want to give "benefits" to them, but too bad, "benefits" are not a form of respect.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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A big misunderstanding of the recent cover-up of the assaults in Europe is that such cover-up is meant to protect refugees and Islam, avoid the further demonization of Islam and Muslims, and to avoid racism toward muslims.

Think twice and you see the obvious mistakes.

1. When you avoid talking about A in the context of B, or outright covering it up, you have implied that A and B are connected. You made a conscious decision to avoid a conversation, but you first would have to know the connection, believe in it; otherwise, you wouldn't have successfully avoided it. By covering it up, the European governments have essentially made a conscious effort in connecting refugees, muslims, and even islam directly with the assaults. this implied behavior shows deep-seated racism and islamophobia in european governments.

2. When you try to make someone's crime seem lighter, you respect neither the criminal nor the victim. If your own child and family, whom you love and care about, did something like this, you would be horrified, persuade them to change, for their own sake and others. if you love a man and respect him, would you want him to assault others and would you easily forgive or cover it up? you wouldn't if you love him. But when you view a group of people as "the other," you may not care about it much. you lower your expectations because a) you care about them less, if at all, and b) you think they are inferior, thus deserving special moral discount. in both cases, covering it up and easing its severity through good press or no press is precisely a form of discrimination. its roots are found in hundreds of years of european perceptions and fantasies about non-european, non-white peoples. they are found in european assumptions of what non-europeans can or cannot do, where non-europeans need to be told or be forgiven. it reinforces a racial and religious hierarchical structure where the white europeans are at the top, while the muslims of color are "exotic," "different," "otherly."

The governments of Europe have essentially accepted islamophobia and racism.
Uh; IMHO Europeans are getting quite pissed at Muslims of ANY race and, I can't blame them. Tho I do wonder how well the Germans of Turk family get along with the newer Muslims.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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Dam straight I am Islamaphobic... so is the government who screens for terrorists at airports, in public places, has a watch list of muslims.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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European governments have made it worse by covering up the significantly higher sexual crime rate of Muslim immigrants and shutting down discussion.

The indisputable fact is that most Muslim immigrants are coming from a culture that does not value women the same as the West and through the law of their native land rape is essentially tacitly accepted.

Mass immigration of Muslims have led to large increases of rape in Europe. Surely not all Muslims are rapists, but you have to be a naive fool (or PC BS liberal) to not see the connection between the culture in the Middle East and the real world sex-crime results in Europe.

Covering up reality does not solve the problem and leads to more rapes.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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Neither Muslim nor Islam is a race. Therefore, "Cover-up is essentially racism against Muslims and Islamophobia" makes no sense.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 07:51 PM
 
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Covering up for islam and muslims is wrong. And preventing cultural destruction by keeping muslims out is wrong. Embracing and celebrating your Western culture's destruction is right. Yeah yeah that's it.


No you're half right. The governments and media in Europe and America cover up negative things about non-whites and trumpet everything thing negative about whites and bring mass immigration because they are 'racist' against whites.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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Covering up for islam and muslims is wrong. And preventing cultural destruction by keeping muslims out is wrong. Embracing and celebrating your Western culture's destruction is right. Yeah yeah that's it.


No you're half right. The governments and media in Europe and America cover up negative things about non-whites and trumpet everything thing negative about whites and bring mass immigration because they are 'racist' against whites.
Arabs ARE "white", sorry. Tho I'd MUCH rather have Christian Arabs than especially the Sunni kind.
 
Old 01-18-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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The OP's essay makes little sense but I bet he/she could get at least a B+ for it in an ethnic studies 101 course at Mizzou.
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