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Old 01-20-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Not really.

Well, I didn't think a right winger would really have much interest in a scientific peer-reviewed study of the topic.

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Old 01-20-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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The funds were frozen as part of the sanctions against Iran. The funds are Iranian. Everyone I know, is aware of that. That fact doesn't change the fact that Obama is allowing $150 billion dollars to get into the hands of our avowed enemies, so that they can develop nuclear weaponry against the US and our allies.
Correction: Obama allowed the money to get into Iran's hands so that they will NOT develop nuclear weaponry. I guess you missed the part about Iran shipping 98% of its nuclear fuel out of the country, dismantling 12,000 centrifuges and pouring concrete into the core of a plutonium reactor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/wo...deal.html?_r=0

Now, that they might use this money for other nefarious purposes is a legitimate concern.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Would it have been better if we had traded arms for hostages instead?


A real commander-in-chief would not have allowed the boats to be taken in the first place. If the Iranians were "helping" they would have towed them out of range and released them. Instead, the boats were seized, the sailors captured and forced to do propaganda videos.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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A real commander-in-chief would not have allowed the boats to be taken in the first place.
A real commander-in-chief wouldn't have let 220 sleeping marines, 18 sailors, and 3 soldiers die in a car bombing in Beirut.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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I don't know about you people but I am quite sick of the lies in the media
that are allowed to go unchallenged and unidentified by the talking heads
on television and in the press who have Americans believing that "we"
are "giving" Iran "150 Billion" dollars as part of this nuclear arms deal.
This statement has been repeated thousands of times online, on tv,
on radio, and by Presidential candidates in debate forums, yet the
moderators and talk show hosts don't even state the plain fact that
to say so is an entirely non-reality.
It's really scary to know that obvious lies are being told and sit unchallenged.
We are not giving Iran anything. These assets of Iranians were locked down
by America and its allies for no good reason other than to pressure them to
allow inspections of their nuclear programme. It's THEIR MONEY.

Kerry: Iran's frozen assets less than $150 billion - Business Insider
Well hell, IF John Kerry says it, it MUST be true.

PSST, I've got a seldom used bridge for sale. Do you want to make a bid?
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Tsk - some of these comments are so immature. No wonder "Merika" is in trouble. Adults with the brains of 5 year olds.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
I don't know about you people but I am quite sick of the lies in the media
that are allowed to go unchallenged and unidentified by the talking heads
on television and in the press who have Americans believing that "we"
are "giving" Iran "150 Billion" dollars as part of this nuclear arms deal.
This statement has been repeated thousands of times online, on tv,
on radio, and by Presidential candidates in debate forums, yet the
moderators and talk show hosts don't even state the plain fact that
to say so is an entirely non-reality.
It's really scary to know that obvious lies are being told and sit unchallenged.
We are not giving Iran anything. These assets of Iranians were locked down
by America and its allies for no good reason other than to pressure them to
allow inspections of their nuclear programme. It's THEIR MONEY.

Kerry: Iran's frozen assets less than $150 billion - Business Insider
"“So maybe they don’t get $100 billion,” Obama said of the Iranians. “Maybe they get $60 billion or $70 billion instead."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...059_story.html


Obama is the ONE who first said $150 billion.

"One of the highlights of their insane exchange is when Obama tries to insist that Iran won’t be more dangerous if it gets another $150 billion.
Obama: The question is, if Iran has $150 billion parked outside the country, does the IRGC automatically get $150 billion? Does that $150 billion then translate by orders of magnitude into their capacity to project power throughout the region?"
"http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3292927/posts
Does the amount really matter?
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Bill Clinton said the same thing about North Korea and here we are with the two evil countries working together doubt the commies received any money like $150 Billion but we should of kept that money for the former Embassy hostages,those that have been falsely imprisoned and Veterans families of the killed disabled by Iran's contributions to terrorism as restitution.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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A real commander-in-chief would not have allowed the boats to be taken in the first place. If the Iranians were "helping" they would have towed them out of range and released them. Instead, the boats were seized, the sailors captured and forced to do propaganda videos.
Exactly what could Obama have done to keep the boat from being taken? I can think of only one thing - not have our fleet patrolling so close to Iranian territory in the first place, which might be a good idea.

Surely if an Iranian gunboat drifted into our waters we would capture said boat and detain the crew until we can determine what they are up to. During the course of this capture we would probably have the crew kneel or lay down while the boat is searched. The circumstances around the video have not been revealed yet.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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"“So maybe they don’t get $100 billion,” Obama said of the Iranians. “Maybe they get $60 billion or $70 billion instead."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...059_story.html


Obama is the ONE who first said $150 billion.

"One of the highlights of their insane exchange is when Obama tries to insist that Iran won’t be more dangerous if it gets another $150 billion.
Obama: The question is, if Iran has $150 billion parked outside the country, does the IRGC automatically get $150 billion? Does that $150 billion then translate by orders of magnitude into their capacity to project power throughout the region?"
"http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3292927/posts
Does the amount really matter?
Do they also get to keep their doctor and HC plan?
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