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Old 01-24-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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How about you just summarise the supposed 'scientific' information?
I'm guessing you're going to have to wait a long time for a response.

 
Old 01-24-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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I'm guessing you're going to have to wait a long time for a response.
He wants other people to waste their time writing a long post debunking a Gish Gallop of already long debunked ridiculous claims in the video, then he'll just post a quick "That's just BS" with no other explanation. Total waste of time to try to have a rational discussion about science with someone who rejects science because of their ideological/religious beliefs.
 
Old 01-24-2016, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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That's really interesting, it seems that this warming (which is illustrated from 1880-2015) really takes off over the past 50 years. The entire planet is experiencing higher than normal temps., with the northern rim of the Antarctic being the last remaining holdout of normal temperatures.
 
Old 01-25-2016, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Houston
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LOL!!! Whatever floats your boat, dude.
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Originally Posted by Ceist View Post
He wants other people to waste their time writing a long post debunking a Gish Gallop of already long debunked ridiculous claims in the video, then he'll just post a quick "That's just BS" with no other explanation. Total waste of time to try to have a rational discussion about science with someone who rejects science because of their ideological/religious beliefs.
See the above gem from nononsense as an example. LOL
 
Old 01-25-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Nonsense!


First of all, there is no global temperature record dating back to 1880 as falsely claimed by NOAA.


In fact, prior to the satellite era, the only record of Earth`s surface temperature was the product of a disjointed hodgepodge of highly non-uniform and poorly maintained and monitored ground-based weather stations combined with ocean surface records that were literally collected by tossing a bucket over the side of a ship and hauling the sea water onboard where the temperature data was collected using old-school thermometers.


There is no way to verify data collected in such an unreliable fashion is accurate and there is no way to rework the numbers to make it accurate.


It`s all guesswork and claims to the contrary are bull ****.


That leaves us with the satellite temperature record that is in fact relatively reliable and, more importantly, verifiable.


This record, the one that began in 1979, is the only real (non-modeled) surface temperature record, and this record shows that 2015 was the sixth warmest year since 1979.


RSS / MSU and AMSU Data / Time Series Trend Browser




bfd!

So once again, here's a full recent interview with Dr Carl Mears from RSS who directly contradicts your claims. Are you claiming to know more about his own dataset than he does?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BnkI5vqr_0

 
Old 01-25-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb 2015 Hottest Year Ever?

According to science: yes

According to Limbaugh: no

 
Old 01-25-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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That's really interesting, it seems that this warming (which is illustrated from 1880-2015) really takes off over the past 50 years. The entire planet is experiencing higher than normal temps., with the northern rim of the Antarctic being the last remaining holdout of normal temperatures.
My area isn't experiencing warming in the last 50 years. The era from 1877 to 1902 was the warmest. 1950 to 1990 was the coldest in records dating back to 1870. The likelihood that my area is immune to global climate changes year after year is zero.

The Little Ice Age didn't end until 1850, an abnormally cold period of the Holocene.

You're either a charlatan yourself or a useful idiot.
 
Old 01-25-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Well I think this thread has run its course. We are now dealing with a poster who believes scientists are capable of setting some sort of global thermostat. That's a new low, even for the deniers on this forum.

For your information fat lou, we are planning on setting the temperature to 42 degrees.
No, that's what you're saying. If not, then what the hell are you guys talking about? All right, it's hot. It's soooooo hot! So what's your point? Do you just spend a good deal of your life just complaining about the weather, or what? I mean, what's the point here?
 
Old 01-25-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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In an email with AP, Dr Carl Mears from RSS says satellite data sets have about 5 times the margin of error compared to surface data sets.

"Carl Mears, senior scientist for Remote Sensing Systems, told The Associated Press in an email: "The satellite measurements do not measure the surface warming. They are measurements of the average temperature of thick layers of the atmosphere" about 50,000 feet off the ground."

Earth's temperature depends on where you put thermometer


"For impacts on human society and the environment, the surface data are more important," Mears said.
Mears said his analysis of his own satellite data has five times the margin of error of ground measurements. That's because satellites use complex mathematical algorithms and thousands of bits of code to translate wavelength measurements into temperature readings"

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Old 01-25-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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Where have you gotten the idea that science claims to have the power or wants to "control" the earth's climate? You should just stick to your religious hocus pocus...
We're going to "take action on climate change," right? If that doesn't mean controlling the earth's climate, then what does it mean?
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