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Old 01-21-2016, 04:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
What about anglo white people with "known" Black ancestors? Would they qualify for reparations or not? Too; what about Black Americans who had NO slave ancestors here in the US.

That is just the tip of the iceberg.
1)Many whites have no ancestors who have a connection to slavery, so why should they pay.
2)Many whites died to end slavery, so why should their ancestors pay.
You could combine #1&2 and go as far as to say todays ancestors of those whites should be paid for their sacrifices.
3)Some blacks have no connection via ancestors who were slaves. Some are also partially white, so should they have to pay a portion of the reparations to themselves?
4)Other minorities, including whites (like the Irish) were either brought over as slaves/indentured servants. They were treated like animals as well. Are they entitled to be paid reparations?


In this day and age, it is absurd to consider such things, just as it would be absurd to say we should ship blacks back to Africa (assuming their ancestors even came from there).
In reality, (though not PC to say) even the ancestors of slaves should be thankful their ancestors were brought here as slaves. Otherwise they might not even be alive, as many tribes in Africa attempt genocide against each other. Additionally, they certainly wouldn't be living a better life if they were born in Africa.


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Old 01-21-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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As a black male, I don't believe it will cause a race war. I don't think blacks should get reparations. And the main reason is because the less you need government the better. Black America being predisposed to ask the government is down right disgusting in my opinion. Blacks don't need reparation. We just need ourselves and the power of the market.
That's right. Slavery ended because the market demanded it.

Jim Crow ended because the market demanded it.

If James Meridith had just given those white Mississippians a course on free markets, why they just would've let him walk on into Ole Miss totally unmolested. Ditto the kids at Little Rock Central and University of Alabama. Free markets.

Truman desegregated the military over the Pentagon's objections because of what? Oh yeah...the market.

Man...I'm so glad that you figured out the solution to what the problem was ALL ALONG!
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There wouldn't be a race war. Who the hell on here is willing to die because someone else got a check?

Worst that would happen is white people would get on CD and crash the server.

Black people would spend 50% of that money in the first month and the economy would be booming because money that is given is rarely valued like money earned.

race war? lmao... more like race to the computer to play warcraft on your XBOX.
Lmao.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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Blacks have the ability to develop our own community. Employ our own people and thrive. That would devastate Wallstreet and much of corporate America.

All this talk about a race war is dumb. If there was one the country would never recover. That would be the end of America as we know. The only people who would think of that type of trash are white supremacist and their decendants.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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That's right. Slavery ended because the market demanded it.

Jim Crow ended because the market demanded it.

Yep absolutely right. Cradle to the grave enslavement was becoming increasingly expensive. And manual farm labor was a thing of the past due to technical revolutions that automated most large farms. Slavery would have been a money hole and unsustainable in America if it had continue. Slave plantations could not reasonable out produce companies with modern machinery.

Jim Crow. Actually this is a no brainer. Isolating a potential government base has a lot of implications on businesses economically. The result? Integration made it legal to do take black people money. Before due to segregation laws being in different states, businesses were separated from potential spending power from blacks.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:45 PM
 
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Yep absolutely right. Cradle to the grave enslavement was becoming increasingly expensive. And manual farm labor was a thing of the past due to technical revolutions that automated most large farms. Slavery would have been a money hole and unsustainable in America if it had continue. Slave plantations could not reasonable out produce companies with modern machinery.

Jim Crow. Actually this is a no brainer. Isolating a potential government base has a lot of implications on businesses economically. The result? Integration made it legal to do take black people money. Before due to segregation laws being in different states, businesses were separated from potential spending power from blacks.
Lol...stop it.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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What about the blacks that came to inited states after the war, would they be entitled?
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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That is just the tip of the iceberg.
1)Many whites have no ancestors who have a connection to slavery, so why should they pay.
2)Many whites died to end slavery, so why should their ancestors pay.
You could combine #1&2 and go as far as to say todays ancestors of those whites should be paid for their sacrifices.
3)Some blacks have no connection via ancestors who were slaves. Some are also partially white, so should they have to pay a portion of the reparations to themselves?
4)Other minorities, including whites (like the Irish) were either brought over as slaves/indentured servants. They were treated like animals as well. Are they entitled to be paid reparations?


In this day and age, it is absurd to consider such things, just as it would be absurd to say we should ship blacks back to Africa (assuming their ancestors even came from there).
In reality, (though not PC to say) even the ancestors of slaves should be thankful their ancestors were brought here as slaves. Otherwise they might not even be alive, as many tribes in Africa attempt genocide against each other. Additionally, they certainly wouldn't be living a better life if they were born in Africa.


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There's multiple studies that suggest that most Black Americans are. I don't know how true it is, just throwing that out there. I would probably agree though. I get asked am I of Hispanic descent frequently.

Threads like these are pointless. It just fuels the flames and gets the extremists on both sides riled up.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Im fine with reparations. WE should pay every former slave. Its been over 150 years move on....
 
Old 01-21-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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The country would be so broke if it passed, there wouldn't be enough money for a race war (which blacks would lose).

The answer to that would be to impose reparations on the slave states and collect it or kick them out of the union.
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