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Saloon owners and dry goods purveyors have been putting these signs in their windows since the days of Wyatt Earp.
There was more gun control in Wyatt Earp's day than there is today. Wyatt enforced no open carry, no concealed carry, and check your guns at the city limit laws.
While people were allowed to have guns at home for self-protection, frontier towns usually barred anyone but law enforcement from carrying guns in public.
When Dodge City residents organized their municipal government, do you know what the very first law they passed was? A gun control law. They declared that "any person or persons found carrying concealed weapons in the city of Dodge or violating the laws of the State shall be dealt with according to law." Many frontier towns, including Tombstone, Arizona--the site of the infamous "Shootout at the OK Corral"--also barred the carrying of guns openly.
I live in N TX and that is exactly what I've observed. In the past couple of weeks, I've seen "no concealed" and "no carry" signs at several medical facilities, including a hospital, a rehab center, an assisted living center, and a medical professional building. Previously there were no signs posted so concealed carry was allowed.
It's always been illegal to carry concealed in most medical facilities, nothing changed except you're looking for the signs.
A few years ago, when State Rep. Drew Springer went to visit a Deputy Sheriff at Texas Health's Harris Methodist Hospital in Fort Worth, he had to leave his gun in the car.
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wait, of all people, gun enthusiasts in --- of all places--- Texas might not have anticipated negative consequences of their open carry laws? I'm shocked, Cotton.
The sense is ~ Texas since 1996 has let you legally come in with your piece but the open carry nutjobs demanded the right to flaunt their pieces and screwed the pooch for us.
Concealed carry worked fine. Open carry goes to show what happens when you try to fix something that's not broke.
Instead of making open and concealed carry easier the new law is making it harder. I've seen more "no gun" signs going up than I saw before the new law - both 30.06 signs (no concealed carry) and 30.07 signs (no open carry).
“We have lost more than we gained,” said one frustrated poster to the online site TexasCHLforum.com, which invites discussion about concealed gun permit laws in the state. “This has woken up the ‘anti’ crowd in a big way.”
“Places that were not concerned previously are taking sides because of the recent publicity,” said another.
The “concealed” part of concealed carry may have made it easy for business owners to just not think much about who is or isn’t toting a gun.
Now, with open carry as the law, they must be explicitly clear. Anecdotally, unhappy posters at the pro-gun site Texas3006.com report a rash of businesses putting up new signs banning both concealed and open firearms.
Let me see if I get this correct, an armed criminal walks into a business that prohibits the carry of a gun and starts a mass shooting, then an armed good guy pulls out his weapon, fires at the bad guy and stops him, instead of being called a hero, there's a good chance he'll be arrested and charged with the violation of the law stated on the sign at the entrance that disallows open or concealed carry. That makes a lot of sense.
They should learn from past incidents where bad guys ignored the signs at the entrance and walked into gun-free zones and committed criminal acts. That's why I would stay away from such businesses.
No. Posting a "no guns" sign does not create a law, so you are not breaking a law if carry anyway.
Shocking!!! Businesses in Texas don't want gun nuts in their stores. Who'da thunk it?
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