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Old 01-28-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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You said:



You don't understand the definition of "unemployed."

1] You have to want to work; and
2] You have to be able to work (meaning not in a nursing home, jail, rehab facility or whatever); and
3] You have to be actively seeking employment.

Your government defines actively seeking employment as having sought work in the last 4 weeks prior to the survey that is conducted for the job report.

If you want to argue that the government's definition is disingenuous, since the hiring process is now about 90 days; therefore those who sought work in the last 90 days should be counted as unemployed, then do so.

Someone who has no desire to work by definition cannot be unemployed.
Then they should give statistics of these "not wanting" to work separately.

They are counted "employed".

Certainly they are not
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Old 01-28-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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What should happen? Blame the Republicans.

Obama is one branch of Government out of 3. The other 2 are dominated by conservatives and have been for almost 75% of his presidency.

During that time more and more Republicans have been put into power at the state and local levels.

We did not see any true liberal or left leaning policies. No matter what the conservative propaganda says.

No single payer.
No closing of Guantanamo.
Hardly any increase in taxes on capital gains or upper incomes.
No forcing the banks to eat the cost of the recessions they created.

Instead we got a gift to for profit insurances, and dictation that corporations are people.

Say what you will but Obama can only do so much within his power and the Republicans have blocked and weakened any effort. Don't call these liberal policies. These are 90s Republican policies at best.

We are still dealing with the ramifications of Bush policies.

Don't believe me?

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Who started those wars? How many trillions?

Obama won't have given us another recession. Conservatives and Republicans are in control of many more aspects of government and will roll over for Wall Street to give us another recession.

What will happen? The conservative sheeple will blame the black man who tried to take their money and guns and let the brown people come into the country, while they ignore the rich white men robbing and bankrupting their country. Much easier to blame the black guy.
Buuuuush! How long before liberals will quit using that old, tired refrain? Oh wait, maybe till the next Republican President they can pin everything on.

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Old 01-28-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I am curious

What will people say about that??

Despite FED's sincere efforts it seems they won't be able to prevent the next big thing

Who should we blame
Its must the normal game. If it looms lime the Repubs are going to win the election, you can bet, dollars to Navy beans, Obama and his clergy will set things up to be a helluva mess , when the I comings take over, or shortly thereafter. Gotta love politics......
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Old 01-28-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Buuuuush! Do liberals ever get tired of that old, tired refrain?
The passing of time doesn't make him less at fault.

Are the Japanese no longer at fault for bombing Pearl Harbor because it was 70 years ago? Bush ruined the economy. We've now recovered. It's still his fault. It will always be his fault. Any one with a SHRED of intellectual honesty can look at a number of leading economic indicators and know that we're much better off than we were when Bush left office.

Personally, economically, I've had the best 7 years of my life.

It's Bush's fault. Live with it.
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Old 01-28-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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The passing of time doesn't make him less at fault.

Are the Japanese no longer at fault for bombing Pearl Harbor because it was 70 years ago? Bush ruined the economy. We've now recovered. It's still his fault. It will always be his fault. Any one with a SHRED of intellectual honesty can look at a number of leading economic indicators and know that we're much better off than we were when Bush left office.

Personally, economically, I've had the best 7 years of my life.

It's Bush's fault. Live with it.
We are glad the Obama Presidency has enriched your bottom line. Unfortunately for many others it has not. Bush was not in any way a fiscal conservative but he did not sink the economy by himself. Congress, which consisted of Democrats as well as Republicans had a hand in it as well. Live with it.
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Old 01-28-2016, 03:59 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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We are glad the Obama Presidency has enriched your bottom line. Unfortunately for many others it has not. Bush was not in any way a fiscal conservative but he did not sink the economy by himself. Congress, which consisted of Democrats as well as Republicans had a hand in it as well. Live with it.
Uh huh.

The country is much better off now financially than when Bush left office. So many are in the same boat as me. You're not doing well?

How about pulling yourself up by your boot straps? Get additional training. Improve your skills. I'm sure that's the advice you'd give anyone on welfare.

So which is it? Are you doing better under Obama or do you need to stretch out those bootstraps? I'd be successful no matter who is president. Its sad to blame your own inadequacies on the president.
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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Uh huh.

The country is much better off now financially than when Bush left office. So many are in the same boat as me. You're not doing well?

How about pulling yourself up by your boot straps? Get additional training. Improve your skills. I'm sure that's the advice you'd give anyone on welfare.

So which is it? Are you doing better under Obama or do you need to stretch out those bootstraps? I'd be successful no matter who is president. Its sad to blame your own inadequacies on the president.
Darlin' I did fine under Bush, great under Reagan and thankfully coasting into a comfortable retirement under President Obama. I simply asked why do liberals blame Bush for everything wrong, from singlehandedly destroying the economy to the pimples on their a--?
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Darlin' I did fine under Bush, great under Reagan and thankfully coasting into a comfortable retirement under President Obama. I simply asked why do liberals blame Bush for everthing wrong, from singlehandedly destroying the economy to the pimples on their a--?
So you did fine under Obama? I thought he was the demon-child according to Conservatives.

I was in elementary school when Regan was president so I can't comment.

The reason liberals blame Bush for the mess that was our economy is this: It was his fault. And we continue to suffer the repercussions today.

Obama is by no means perfect, but, he's certainly been a much better steward of our economy and foreign policy than his predecessor.

The 1986 Red Sox World Series Loss is still Buckner's fault. Time doesn't change that.
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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Darlin' I did fine under Bush, great under Reagan and thankfully coasting into a comfortable retirement under President Obama. I simply asked why do liberals blame Bush for everything wrong, from singlehandedly destroying the economy to the pimples on their a--?
Probably for the same reason Cons blame everything from the Weather to racism to IS on Obama - pure selective perception.
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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So you did fine under Obama? I thought he was the demon-child according to Conservatives.

I was in elementary school when Regan was president so I can't comment.

The reason liberals blame Bush for the mess that was our economy is this: It was his fault. And we continue to suffer the repercussions today.

Obama is by no means perfect, but, he's certainly been a much better steward of our economy and foreign policy than his predecessor.

The 1986 Red Sox World Series Loss is still Buckner's fault. Time doesn't change that.
Bush did not destroy the economy singlehandedly. Congress had a hand in it as well. Real estate speculators, Wall Street, and greedy people in general contributed. Blaming Bush, while refusing to acknowledge the other participants is ideologically driven and shortsighted.
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