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Old 03-18-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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There was no crime committed by anyone in the truck.
And yet Ryan Payne, Ryan Bundy and Shawna Cox have all been indicted, with a very high likelihood of spending a few decades behind bars.

 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: CO
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
And I can make up laws on the run too, to charge you with, if I wear a badge.

There was no crime committed by anyone in the truck. Thus no warrant issued.

The report and the video evidence do not coincide.

I believe that is just adding fuel to the fire.
No warrants necessary.

Again, your argumentum ad nauseam changes nothing.

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...the logical fallacy that something becomes true if it is repeated often enough.
An ad nauseam argument that can be easily shown to be false leads to the "point refuted a thousand times".
I find it laughable that those professing to uphold the "laws of the land" and their supporters are so completely clueless about actual law.

Not only do they not need a warrant, many of the charges come with federal mandatory minimums.
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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And yet Ryan Payne, Ryan Bundy and Shawna Cox have all been indicted, with a very high likelihood of spending a few decades behind bars.

There were no indictments or charges until after detention.
They are being held, in a different manner than our laws state too.
They are being held under the pretense of being guilty without due process to prove their innocents.
Remember the law Obama made to be able to detain, indefinitely?

A judge, State or Federal has not refused bail. The federal government will not allow it, to even be heard.


This will never make it to any court and expose the federal government and the police state protecting it. The people incarcerated will be held indefinitely, by law.
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Under what warrant?

Show me the warrant issued for LaVoys arrest, or anyone in that white Dodge truck
Don't need a warrant to arrest someone who is in the process of committing a crime.
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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There were minor age children in each vehicle in the convoy
That does not sound likely.

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Yes, they thought they were going to be massacred. Listen to the video.
They thought a lot of things. They thought an armed takeover would somehow make people come around to their point of view. They thought putting their leadership in 2 cars and driving 50 miles in the middle of nowhere was a good idea. They thought it was a clever move to drive away from law enforcement.

Have I mentioned they do not come across as overly smart?
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Then the report lied......


I believe that is what was said in the beginning, when the report was released.
Lies and cover-up.


If you actually read the investigators report, the entire report is trying to cover up shooting him in the back without probable cause.
It is a lot of suspicion and opinions. Very little facts that follow the video sequence review.

They said they were shooting rubber bullets, and the investigator says there was copper consistent with a bullet round in the engine compartment.


This was intended to be a massacre, until they heard the little girl in the truck scream.
Someone in the first car was shot in the hand by a non-lethal round, rubber bullets most certainly leave a bruise.


She was not a little girl, she was a teenager. Why is any of this important.


All who followed instructions except for Finicum, that is he was shot.
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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How old was she.....
Speaking of lies.

It says how old, The "Minor Child" was in the report.
Or was that a lie too?


How old was she? I read she was 18.
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No warrants necessary.

Again, your argumentum ad nauseam changes nothing.



I find it laughable that those professing to uphold the "laws of the land" and their supporters are so completely clueless about actual law.

Not only do they not need a warrant, many of the charges come with federal mandatory minimums.

A federal warrant is needed, unless you are caught in the act and brought before a judge and the arresting officer, testified to your crime to keep you incarcerated.

This was a set up to capture a person that did no crime and had no warrants for his arrest, just because he was telling the government off.(we the government are going to show you the citizen, who owns who)
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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This was intended to be a massacre, until they heard the little girl in the truck scream.
That "little girl" was 18 years old. She was exactly where she, as an adult, put herself.
 
Old 03-18-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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There were no indictments or charges until after detention.
They are being held, in a different manner than our laws state too.
They are being held under the pretense of being guilty without due process to prove their innocents.
Remember the law Obama made to be able to detain, indefinitely?

A judge, State or Federal has not refused bail. The federal government will not allow it, to even be heard.


This will never make it to any court and expose the federal government and the police state protecting it. The people incarcerated will be held indefinitely, by law.
You're coming across as kinda silly, what with the Bundyites being in and out of court pretty much non-stop.

Here you go, bail hearing: Federal judge denies release for 5 refuge occupiers, orders release for two others | OregonLive.com
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