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Old 02-08-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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Get out of your box. Not everyone lives paycheck to paycheck as your mentality dictates.
Working the land, selling cows and mining for minerals.... Make them money, even when they are not there.... It is not calving season and it is too cold to work the land. Many ranchers work 2 months out of the year, to make it through the rest. Ranching and farming are two different tasks.

Not everyone has to be "employed" and told what to do to make a living, like you.
Are you jealous you have the 9 to 5 rut and they have freedom? Or were you just being derogatory because of ignorance.
If they're such great entrepreneurs with so much "freedom" and time on their hands, they should have ample money to buy all the land they need, rather than feeling entitled to it for free.

 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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Get out of your box. Not everyone lives paycheck to paycheck as your mentality dictates.
Working the land, selling cows and mining for minerals.... Make them money, even when they are not there.... It is not calving season and it is too cold to work the land. Many ranchers work 2 months out of the year, to make it through the rest. Ranching and farming are two different tasks.

Not everyone has to be "employed" and told what to do to make a living, like you.
Are you jealous you have the 9 to 5 rut and they have freedom? Or were you just being derogatory because of ignorance.
Yes, we're all jealous.
Finnicum said himself that ranching barely met his overhead, and that foster parenting was his main source of income (leaving out the part about the foster teens being his main source of ranch labor).
Ammon Bundy lost his house in 2012 due to missing payments and is currently in arrears on a $500k business loan from the Small Business Administration.
David Fry has a long history of cycling through low-paying jobs and unemployment checks.
Sean Anderson? Well, you don't want to go there.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: DC
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Le Voy made his money ranching foster children.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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This is the tyranny they're fighting against.

5 Government Handouts the Bundys Businesses Depend On
 
Old 02-08-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is the tyranny they're fighting against.

5 Government Handouts the Bundys Businesses Depend On
was taking away small business loans one of their demands of the tyrannical government?
 
Old 02-08-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Meanwhile


"Are you following here? The state of Utah is waging a frivolous $14 million lawsuit that it knows it has no chance of winning in the name of something it touts as in the best interest of the public when, in fact, the real agenda is to rally support from its misinformed constituency. It’s called a successful loss, and this is because $14 million is a small price to pay to keep a Republican majority in Utah, one that will be led blindly into the trap of taking over the land, o...nly to see it sold off to extraction companies that will yield trillions for themselves and their bought-and-paid-for politicians.
Utah public lands battle
Who most wants control of these lands? Commodities exploiters.
And if they succeed, the use of these lands that are guaranteed and protected for all Americans will be available to less of them and at a prohibitively higher cost to them than it has ever been under federal management.
The people waging this land war have their eye on the ball for sure. They’re hoping we don’t.
Think about it. -- Dallas Hyland"
 
Old 02-08-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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" The people waging this land war have their eye on the ball for sure. They’re hoping we don’t.
Think about it. -- Dallas Hyland"
What an absolutely shameful post! To think that by not providing a link or citation of the above you deprived the rest of us the most succinct commentary of the present controversy! Mr. Hyland's opinion piece is just too good to have been kept to yourself!

A must read!

The Utah public lands battle has nothing to do with the public - The Independent | St George Cedar Zion Utah Mesquite NV News & Events
 
Old 02-08-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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What an absolutely shameful post! To think that by not providing a link or citation of the above you deprived the rest of us the most succinct commentary of the present controversy! Mr. Hyland's opinion piece is just too good to have been kept to yourself!

A must read!

The Utah public lands battle has nothing to do with the public - The Independent | St George Cedar Zion Utah Mesquite NV News & Events
Sorry, I posted the quote as it was sent to me with no link.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Sorry, I posted the quote as it was sent to me with no link.
You are forgiven….
 
Old 02-08-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is pretty low and slimy to say a man that fostered many children, to be outstanding and responsible people, made his money by fostering children... How progressive of you.



This was called a "take over" by the media. The media blew this up bigger than it originally was.
It was a protest. Nothing more.

Exercising the individual right to protect ones self, was not the only right being exercised as the media led everyone to believe was the only issue.
The right to protest is a 1st amendment right.
The 2nd protects the 1st, when government doesn't want to hear what you are saying, and tells you to shut up and leave, or violence will occur.
The 2nd amendment reminds the government, who they really work for.

With that said:


This was no way "a take over".

Because the protesters were in fact exercising their 2nd amendment rights, the federal employees were scared to show up for work, schools were shut down and an over reaction took place, with the media fueling the misinformation and focusing on the weapons. Armed militants, became the new meme.

There was nothing militant about it, until government issued threats of violence & arrest if they didn't leave. Denying them their 1st amendment, with violence, right off the bat. Whoa... Taking it to a new level. They hunkered down harder and more convinced government is bad. The entire reason, they were armed. To secure a Free State, where the 1st amendment rules over the governments forced silence.
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