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Old 04-21-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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It's not science that is in control of whatever methods used to adapt....It unfortunately will be governments, and politicians....Sadly you have an over abundance of people like Jim Inhofe, Ted Cruz and the Donald....

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."........Donald Trump.....I suppose you believe this quote, right?
It will be innovative businesses and entrepreneurs who create products, services, housing and infrastructure to adapt - when they see the need is real.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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So then you understand that people need to tell their elected officials to start to do something constructive about it?

Are you aware that republicans control the purse strings and have mostly not accepted the science?

Are you sure you follow? Because your comments make it seem like you don't.
But without a clear understanding of where we are in the problem then what to do about it is hard to tell.


Keeping the warmer sea water from attacking the ice is the ticket. Then we have the melt rate to deal with not the crushed ice going out to sea rate.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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So then you understand that people need to tell their elected officials to start to do something constructive about it?

Are you aware that republicans control the purse strings and have mostly not accepted the science?

Are you sure you follow? Because your comments make it seem like you don't.

What will taxing carbon do to cool the Icelandic and Antarctic mantle plumes?
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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What will taxing carbon do to cool the Icelandic and Antarctic mantle plumes?
Taxing carbon is a bad idea. Damming the glaciers is far better. Dam the glaciers or dam the sea take your pick.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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But without a clear understanding of where we are in the problem then what to do about it is hard to tell.


Keeping the warmer sea water from attacking the ice is the ticket. Then we have the melt rate to deal with not the crushed ice going out to sea rate.
Well obviously cutting fossil fuel usage helps with long term climate change issues as well short term pollution issues such as smog, water pollution, and heavy metal leeching.

China will soon be the leader in renewable energy because they have no choice since they destroyed their environment and India will be a decade or two behind them.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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What will taxing carbon do to cool the Icelandic and Antarctic mantle plumes?
It depends on how many countries enact a carbon tax or mandate more clean energy. As I said, China has no choice to switch over to renewable energy due to the costs of their environmental degradation and their citizens stirring up political unrest. India won't be far behind.

I doubt much will change globally due to climate change fears but more because of the short term issues of using so much fossil fuels (mostly cheap coal).
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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It depends on how many countries enact a carbon tax or mandate more clean energy. As I said, China has no choice to switch over to renewable energy due to the costs of their environmental degradation and their citizens stirring up political unrest. India won't be far behind.

I doubt much will change globally due to climate change fears but more because of the short term issues of using so much fossil fuels (mostly cheap coal).
Switching to renewable energy is going to cool magma???
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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Well obviously cutting fossil fuel usage helps with long term climate change issues as well short term pollution issues such as smog, water pollution, and heavy metal leeching.
Actually, long term the fresh water addition to the North Atlantic would bring on global cooling, and the cure for that is additional CO2 emissions.
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China will soon be the leader in renewable energy because they have no choice since they destroyed their environment and India will be a decade or two behind them.
I'm not apposed to renewable energy, but...


Unless we start talking about damming the glaciers we are talking about a lot of sea level rise quickly.


The warm sea water is attacking the glaciers, currently. Putting dirt in the way will get us on a melting time curve instead of a crushed ice out to sea time curve.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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Taxing carbon is a bad idea. Damming the glaciers is far better. Dam the glaciers or dam the sea take your pick.
It all depends on how much you tax carbon. Pollution isn't free and the cost will show up in other ways.
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Old 04-21-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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Switching to renewable energy is going to cool magma???
Hahaha didn't read it fully. Should we not try and control the things we can? We can't control the planets geological activity or our suns activity.
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