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Old 02-05-2016, 03:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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With all due respect, rational individuals need to reject your sophomoric understanding of the energy economy and conservation. Currently, there is no financially viable renewable energy. If you are such an Earth Warrior, you're better off cutting down the Earth's population by several billion and/or preventing the population booms where they will occur over the next 30 years. Try taxing food and not giving food aid that encourages unsustainable procreation.
Interesting point...

Not only does food aid in the US encourage unsustainable procreation (women, as a group, who receive public assistance have a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't, and the Medicaid program for the poor now pays for nearly half of all births in the US), it results in higher rates of adult obesity.

Income-eligible adults who get food stamps: 44% obesity rate.
Income-eligible adults who do not get food stamps: 33% obesity rate.
Higher-income adults who of course don't even qualify for food stamps: 32% obesity rate.

Exhibit 5, here: http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/defaul...-SNAP07-10.pdf

Sources for the US women on public assistance birth rate and percentage of all US births paid for by Medicaid:

Stats and citations on the birth rates, here:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/32045595-post217.html

Medicaid Pays For Nearly Half of All Births in the United States | publichealth.gwu.edu
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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I'm surprised he hasn't tried "We're gonna add 20 bucks a month to your electric bill, just because we like money." tax.
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:29 AM
 
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I'm surprised he hasn't tried "We're gonna add 20 bucks a month to your electric bill, just because we like money." tax.
That's already coming

Coal producers are bankrupt and bills are gonna double in the next 2-3 years
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:01 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Sorry, the oil companies mainly contribute to Republicans. The $10 tax, at a time when oil prices are at modern day lows, is a good thing to keep the incentive to conserve fossil fuels and stimulate renewable energy. The last time the gas tax was raised was 1993 -- to 18.4 cents per gallon of gasoline.


there should not be a fuel tax at all on any fuel made, not at the state nor federal level.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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Tax leeches.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Does this mean you will advocate removing the tax when oil prices rise again? Of course we all know a tax like this would never be repealed.
Actually, I favor a percentage tax but if the price skyrocketed, I would think that rolling back the tax would be appropriate.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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there should not be a fuel tax at all on any fuel made, not at the state nor federal level.
Care to elaborate upon your reasoning? The states and federal government have placed taxes on goods since the founding of the nation.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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I hope that tax will be used to fund better public transportation. There's a reason everyone outside of a few major cities drive everywhere.
That's what you hope but when was the last time the government honored a "lock box" they promised. They always find a way to funnel the money to some other pet project. You think tolls are only spent on road upkeep? Look what they are doing with social security taxes. It goes right into the treasury and out to pay the bills.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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but minorities poor and elderly
Obama to propose oil fee of $10 per barrel
How dare he propose yet another thing that helps the American people's future... who does this guy think he is?
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The GOP claims they do not raise taxes, yet we all know this is a myth. This fee is better then the current federal tax at the pump. Ops I wrote fee (GOP for tax).
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