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Old 03-01-2016, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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"...the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) has been hovering around 46 million participants since 2011. The current figure, as of February 2016, stands at 45.8 million Americans receiving food stamps.

Bloomberg Business reported that the last time the unemployment rate was at five percent in April 2008, only 28 million Americans were on food stamps."


Too many people who don't really need them are getting food stamps.
and you know this how?
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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What? Totally FALSE. About $1 trillion per year is allocated for means-tested federal government public assistance programs (Medicaid, Food Stamps, etc., etc.) for the poor. That's about 30% of all federal spending.

Government Spending Details in $ billion: Charts
Medicare is prob 90% cause DR's love to charge
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Work ethic is not going to get you into the 1%... why should it? A McDonald's worker can have strong work ethic... an automotive technician can have strong work ethic... A taxi driver can have strong work ethic.... none of them should be in the 1% for doing that job... a business owner who takes a huge risk and has a strong work ethic MIGHT get into the 1%, there are no guarantees in life... The liberals would have you believe that everybody deserves to be in the 1% BS... if everyone was in the 1%, the liberals would be crying that they are not the 1% of the "previous" 1%... anyway to fool you into joining their side...
no there should be few 1% and having the worlds wealth at least be at 55% of the working population have the rest, not 3 fat cats and rest of the world starving? IF- you have never walked that mile-
no experience -should give you little to say its like a man telling a woman how it feels to be pregnant -
don't want to pay taxes that's up to you... but once it left your wallet the congress decides


965 corporations since the beginning of the study in 1976, Fortune 500 corporations alone accounted for more than 16,000 subsidy awards, worth $63 billion

now why on earth are they getting a dime?
2 remember who puts people out of work?
3 who keeps raising the COL
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Sure, it sucks paying taxes, but in some ways it's nice that in this overpopulated nation there is a large swath of the population that is content to collect a small government check every month and spend it on booze and cigarettes and to watch daytime television from inside their trailer home or their Section 8 apartment. As long as the working class is able to wall itself off from the underclass, I think they're ok with this arrangement. It also makes it easier to succeeded since there's less competition for jobs.
Help a fellow human being fallen on hard times? Sure. Even if it takes a while to rebuild their lives. But they have to do their part. Now permanently support? No.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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We do not think that everyone should be in the 1% but we do believe everyone should have food, shelter, clothing and the time for proper education so they can work themselves out of poverty. We do not want to see homeless people rotting from Gangrene in a blanket next to a dumpster in the heart of Manhattan.
Yes, this is a matter of decency, instead of neglect. A matter of helping people to survive hard times. Which means a lot of people when the economy is in poor shape.


What happens when the local economy goes belly up, and you get laid off? You may be well intentioned, you may do everything right, but may end up living on the street anyway.


I would add to the list some version of health insurance. Not necessarily ObamaCare, or some all encompassing national health care system. For example, New Mexico has had a Federally back risk pool, allowing those who would otherwise be uninsured to get a form of coverage.

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Old 03-01-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Why would we make people on welfare clean the streets when we PAY people to do that?

You are taking away their jobs.
Why are inmates and those on community service made to pick up trash? According to libs, there's "not that many" people on welfare, (talking about those who can do the trash pick up), so what's the problem?
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:05 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Medicare is prob 90% cause DR's love to charge
Medicaid (welfare health care program for the poor) is not 90% of the welfare costs. It's about 50%, and THIS is one of many reasons why that is...

http://publichealth.gwu.edu/content/...-united-states

Our country's exponentially increasing welfare-dependent class is not sustainable. They're costing and they don't contribute.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:21 PM
 
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Many of them are. Read about how they accomplished it.

Last I looked, the MND median income was ~$131K which is NOT top 1%. Top 5% to be sure and very impressive to convert that income to $1M net worth, but not quite a Top 1% income.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:23 PM
 
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Last I looked, the MND median income was ~$131K which is NOT top 1%.
One can accumulate top 1% wealth on that income.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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Rent is too high? That's what roommates are for.

Obamacare a problem? That's what people get for voting for Obama.

Can't fix stupid.

The last three rooms I rented were, respectively, in 10-person, 8-person, and 7-person houses, so I've had no paucity of roommates. But I didn't get economy of scale because the rent collector lived in the same house.
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