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Old 02-16-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

Shame he didn't believe in that.Otherwise why did he fix prices and wages?

Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States
We had an oversupply of milk, cheese, etc.

The feds forced the farmers to throw it into the Mississippi rather than trade it over to the German Weimar Republic.

"War is a racket."- Smedley
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Old 02-16-2016, 09:30 PM
 
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In trying to make sense of FDR's domestic policies, historians and political scientists have referred to a "First New Deal," which lasted from 1933 to 1935, and a "Second New Deal," which stretched from 1935 to 1938. (Some scholars believe that a "Third New Deal" began in 1937 but never took root; the descriptor, likewise, has never gained significant currency.) These terms, it should be remembered, are the creations of scholars trying to impose order and organization on the Roosevelt administration's often chaotic, confusing, and contradictory attempts to combat the depression; Roosevelt himself never used them.

Despite this infusion of federal money into the economy, the nation still suffered from under-consumption and lay mired in depression. In 1939, over 19 percent of the nation's work force remained unemployed. Stock prices had yet to recover from the crash of the late 1920s. Despite the New Deal, the U.S. economy in 1940, though considerably improved, had not yet regained its former vigor.

World War II, not the New Deal, brought an end to the Great Depression. The war sparked the kind of job creation and massive public and private spending that finally lifted the United States out of its economic doldrums.

Franklin D. Roosevelt: Domestic Affairs

We're all still suffering immensely because of the federal bureaucracy he put in place. I'm sure he was an extremely likable person though.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Did you that from a union teacher? Do you ever question what you are taught?
I'm a liberal, and I question much that I am taught, as well as everything that I taught...and everything that that is said and written by conservatives.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Ironic, since FDR actually inflicted the most damage on the United States out of perhaps all other Presidents combined.


One good thing about FDR was that he was actually a nationalist who was unafraid to wage a war that was required at the time. That sets him apart from the pussified limp-wristed Marxist traitors that have hijacked the modern day Democrat Party.
Hyperbole.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You "learnt"? Where did you go to school?
You might try a little research and find out that "learnt" is considered acceptable grammar, although it is used more by the Brits than by Americans.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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How does this square with your view of him? Do you support his ideas, or do you consider him a crazy commie lover like some in his time accused him of being?
FDR destroyed constitutional government and replaced it with national socialism.
For 83+ years Americans have lived under EMERGENCY RULES, hiding the truth from the (m)asses.

STATE OF EMERGENCY
. . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_o...#United_States
As of October 2014, thirty states of emergency remain in effect, one reaching as far back as the Roosevelt Administration.

United States, Senate Report 93-549 states: "That since March 09, 1933 the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency." Proclamation No. 2039 declared by President Franklin D. Roosevelt on March 9, 1933. This declared national emergency has never been revoked and has been codified into the US Code (12 U.S.C. 95a and b).
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Senate Report 93-549
https://archive.org/stream/senate-re...3-549_djvu.txt
War and Emergency Powers Acts
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (as of the report 1933-1973), freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency."
FREEDOMS ... GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION ... HAVE BEEN ABRIDGED BY LAWS ... UNDER EMERGENCY RULE ...

Constitutional U.S.A. (1787 - 1933) R.I.P.
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Old 02-17-2016, 04:50 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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During President Roosevelt's January 11, 1944 message to the Congress of the United States on the State of the Union, he said the following:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EZ5bx9AyI4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights

How does this square with your view of him? Do you support his ideas, or do you consider him a crazy commie lover like some in his time accused him of being?



my dad who was born in 1920 thought that fdr was a stupid liberal thug who should have been tried for treason, impeached and put in prison.

if not for WWII, the American economy would have never recovered from the depression.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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President Roosevelt died in 1945, 2 years before this amendment was even proposed.

and the amendment was proposed and passed by a Republican controlled congress that didnt want another Democrat to hold office that long.
Are you claiming that all of those 48 states who ratified it were repub controlled?
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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You need an emergency to be rated a good president. Look at Grover Cleveland. Sounds like he was pretty decent, but he didn't prevent a national collapse or anything.

FDR is considered one of the best because he prevented a lot of what could have been worse outcomes. Sure it was bad in the Depression, but it could have went the way that Germany did or Argentina is now.

BTW the economy only did so well from WWII because it was already recovering and we survived untouched domestically.
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I still prefer FDR than the Hero of the Republicans RR.


IMHO any economy that leaves people starving in the street is a failed design.
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