Is is time for the North to divorce the dysfunctional Southern U.S.? (wages, illegal aliens)
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The South has been developing at a pretty rapid rate over the rust belt north. Cities like Atlanta, Houston, Austin, Charlotte, Nashville, DC, Miami, OKC, NoLa, have improved and it's no longer just fly country.
The OP is a troll, most of the places he mentioned are out West or in the northern Midwest.
That's not "the South." Those are cities that are in the South. Next time you're flying over, go ahead and land and rent a car for a couple of hours. Drive 100 miles in any direction, and then come back and tell us what a paradise it is.
In contrast, business and industry in the south, especially manufacturing, is booming. In fact, the only real problem area in the south that I think about is New Orleans...which happens to be the area with the largest Democrat presence.
Come to Kentucky and spend a day as my guest. I'll take you for a drive through Eastern Kentucky, the most impoverished and poorly educated region in the country. A guy who's as nice as you seem to be will cry all the way back to the airport. At the very least, you will be deeply shocked.
Why are more than half of the fastest growing cities in the South if such an undesirable place to live?
Blue citizens flee their blue states, move to the Red South for a better way of life, yet continue to vote the same way they did in their blue state. Makes no logical sense.
Why are more than half of the fastest growing cities in the South if such an undesirable place to live?
Blue citizens flee their blue states, move to the Red South for a better way of life, yet continue to vote the same way they did in their blue state. Makes no logical sense.
Evidence suggests that families are moving to the South for a lower cost of living even though their long term economic opportunities are less than in northern cities. Chiefly housing is much less expensive and much newer in places like Atlanta and Houston where labor costs are lower (immigration, cough). Retirees move for the weather.
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Skeffington
I don't get why San Francisco is on your list. Alcatraz and the Winchester Mystery House are cool places to visit, though.
Hippie counter-culture????? How exactly is THAT a plus? Is that when it started to be acceptable in San Francisco to defecate in the streets?
The sexual revolution...thank you, S. F. Everybody should want meaningless hookups with total strangers and thousand of illegitimate kids born to be supported by the tax payer.
I wouldn't brag about LA either, if what it's got going for it is the crap on TV and in the theaters.
There's no hippy counterculture in San Francisco. That city is as money driven as Manhattan, they just eschew wearing suites. And it's only acceptable to defecate in the street if you're a mentally ill and drug addled homeless person who's there for the year round perfect weather. Now Portland, that's where you're weirdos are these days.
And since when is anyone forced to want meaningless hookups?
The North is richer, lives longer (higher life expectancy), is more educated, more innovative and largely subsidizes Southern dysfunction through Federal taxation. The "Human Development Index" is much higher in the Northern U.S.
Why keep the laggards on the Federal payroll? To boot - the South continues its stupidity: racial and class based social stratification and disenfranchisement; anti-science/anti-intellectualism/anti-innovation/anti-women/anti-progress/etc.
Why can't we just let the American version of the Middle East go? What value are they bringing the North? Oil? Fracking? Cheap everything? Let the radical Christian right have their utopia. (fyi - I feel bad for those stuck in the political culture down there, as I know many great Southerns that don't fit the stereotype. How unfortunate.)
It's exhausting seeing the never-ending battle continue down South. While Silicon Valley is busy creating driverless cars, Seattle curing cancer through immunotherapy - the South is debating legal decisions decided 30+ years ago and re-writing public school books to include creationism. Good riddance.
I should also note it's sad to see once great states like Michigan and Wisconsin take on this inherently southern flavor.
Just think about it:
North:
Silicon Valley: Technology capital OF THE WORLD. Driverless cars, your smart phone, biometrics, bio-tech, robotics, human-computer interaction, radical life extension, futurism
San Francisco: hippie counter-culture, sexual revolution, anti-war movement, gay rights, women's rights
LA: everything on your TV and in your theater
NY: financial center of the World; fashion capital; all of your media
Boston: International center of higher education: Harvard, MIT, BU, BC, Brandeis, etc.; bio-technology
Minneapolis: medical manufacturing; highest life expectancy in the U.S.
Seattle/Portland/Madison/Chicago/etc.
Sounds good to me. Go ahead and get your memo out for all the northern transplants who relocate/retire here for the, lets see...low taxes, low crime, lower cost of living in general, less traffic, clean air, mountain views, outdoor activities, friendly people, less government restrictions, slower pace..pack up their crap and head back north.
The North is richer, lives longer (higher life expectancy), is more educated, more innovative and largely subsidizes Southern dysfunction through Federal taxation. The "Human Development Index" is much higher in the Northern U.S.
Why keep the laggards on the Federal payroll? To boot - the South continues its stupidity: racial and class based social stratification and disenfranchisement; anti-science/anti-intellectualism/anti-innovation/anti-women/anti-progress/etc.
Why can't we just let the American version of the Middle East go? What value are they bringing the North? Oil? Fracking? Cheap everything? Let the radical Christian right have their utopia. (fyi - I feel bad for those stuck in the political culture down there, as I know many great Southerns that don't fit the stereotype. How unfortunate.)
It's exhausting seeing the never-ending battle continue down South. While Silicon Valley is busy creating driverless cars, Seattle curing cancer through immunotherapy - the South is debating legal decisions decided 30+ years ago and re-writing public school books to include creationism. Good riddance.
I should also note it's sad to see once great states like Michigan and Wisconsin take on this inherently southern flavor.
Just think about it:
North:
Silicon Valley: Technology capital OF THE WORLD. Driverless cars, your smart phone, biometrics, bio-tech, robotics, human-computer interaction, radical life extension, futurism
San Francisco: hippie counter-culture, sexual revolution, anti-war movement, gay rights, women's rights
LA: everything on your TV and in your theater
NY: financial center of the World; fashion capital; all of your media
Boston: International center of higher education: Harvard, MIT, BU, BC, Brandeis, etc.; bio-technology
Minneapolis: medical manufacturing; highest life expectancy in the U.S.
Seattle/Portland/Madison/Chicago/etc.
Another lib bashing the south. When you hear what comes from the polluted mind of a liberal, one begins to understand thier irrational behavior.
The North is richer, lives longer (higher life expectancy), is more educated, more innovative and largely subsidizes Southern dysfunction through Federal taxation. The "Human Development Index" is much higher in the Northern U.S.
Why keep the laggards on the Federal payroll? To boot - the South continues its stupidity: racial and class based social stratification and disenfranchisement; anti-science/anti-intellectualism/anti-innovation/anti-women/anti-progress/etc.
Why can't we just let the American version of the Middle East go? What value are they bringing the North? Oil? Fracking? Cheap everything? Let the radical Christian right have their utopia. (fyi - I feel bad for those stuck in the political culture down there, as I know many great Southerns that don't fit the stereotype. How unfortunate.)
It's exhausting seeing the never-ending battle continue down South. While Silicon Valley is busy creating driverless cars, Seattle curing cancer through immunotherapy - the South is debating legal decisions decided 30+ years ago and re-writing public school books to include creationism. Good riddance.
I should also note it's sad to see once great states like Michigan and Wisconsin take on this inherently southern flavor.
Just think about it:
North:
Silicon Valley: Technology capital OF THE WORLD. Driverless cars, your smart phone, biometrics, bio-tech, robotics, human-computer interaction, radical life extension, futurism
San Francisco: hippie counter-culture, sexual revolution, anti-war movement, gay rights, women's rights
LA: everything on your TV and in your theater
NY: financial center of the World; fashion capital; all of your media
Boston: International center of higher education: Harvard, MIT, BU, BC, Brandeis, etc.; bio-technology
Minneapolis: medical manufacturing; highest life expectancy in the U.S.
Seattle/Portland/Madison/Chicago/etc.
PSST! Silicon Valley, Frisco, LA are NOT NORTH . they are middle.
Sounds like you would divide the country based on old Civil War lines? You do know that will give the South a huge Military Advantage right??
How they planning to pay for it? They won't have our taxes to spend on it anymore.
Anyway, that equipment is Federal property and the troops are in the federal military. In the theoretical event that the country were to split up, you seriously think the North would leave all that stuff there? You think they'd just forget where it was? We're talking about northerners here, not southerners; they won't do anything that stupid.
Why are more than half of the fastest growing cities in the South if such an undesirable place to live?
Blue citizens flee their blue states, move to the Red South for a better way of life, yet continue to vote the same way they did in their blue state. Makes no logical sense.
Because the South is such a terrible mess, Southern cities are cheaper to live in. Taxes are low because nobody could afford to pay them anyway, and with half the country still suffering from Bush's attempt to hurl everyone but his wealthy friends headfirst back into the Great Depression, many people can't afford to live in First World cities in the part of the country that actually functions.
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