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Old 03-01-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Old 03-02-2016, 12:52 AM
 
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The underlying problem with the Middle East is a vast oversupply of young men with nothing to do but buggar each other and terrify women. Solve the problem caused by the availability of modern medicine and a cultural bias toward large families and you solve the Middle East's problem.
True.

And we were on that path in the 1960s -- Paul Erlich's zero population growth, etc.

But once whites stopped replacing themselves and the overpopulation problem became a strictly Third World problem, zero population growth programs were dropped because they were "racist."

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And yet, Trump is the one making disrespectful comments about POWs.
No, he was only disrespectful to ONE former POW -- Senator McCain -- who threw POW/MIA families under the bus when he was in charge of a senate committee that was supposed to help those families determine what had happened to their loved ones.

Veterans should be much more upset with McCain than with Trump.
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Old 03-02-2016, 02:39 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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For a long period being the key word.

Europe has had relative peace. ME till this day has never had true peace.

Even in the days you mentioned I am sure the Shias and Sunnis hated each other.


And never will have true peace unless it's arrived at by the countries involved, lame attempts by outside parties are doomed from the start.
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Old 03-02-2016, 02:41 AM
 
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No, he was only disrespectful to ONE former POW -- Senator McCain -- who threw POW/MIA families under the bus when he was in charge of a senate committee that was supposed to help those families determine what had happened to their loved ones.

Veterans should be much more upset with McCain than with Trump.
Stop making excuse for the loudmouth, he labeled McCain LOSER! for being captured while saying nothing about his treatment of POW/MIA families. Voters should take Donny for the liar he is.
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:34 AM
 
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Stop making excuse for the loudmouth, he labeled McCain LOSER! for being captured while saying nothing about his treatment of POW/MIA families. Voters should take Donny for the liar he is.
McCain is a great big fraud.

When people shouted "He's a hero!" Trump responded appropriately.

Just getting captured doesn't make you a hero.

A little boy who climbs up a tall tree to rescue a sick owl is more of a hero than so-called "hero" John McCain.
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Old 03-02-2016, 06:27 AM
 
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And never will have true peace unless it's arrived at by the countries involved, lame attempts by outside parties are doomed from the start.
Naw you can force it. Just gotta be smart about it and consistent and ruthless.

Or another way would be to spend a crap ton of money and resources.
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Old 03-02-2016, 06:30 AM
 
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Assuming you wanted to bring order and peace to the ME, there is only one real way to achieve this without spending a ton of money and resources.

You have to pick the strongest person / group in the country and give them an ultimatum.

We will install you into power and leave you to your own devices. Even help you keep it, in some instances. However, you must not infringe on personal liberties and freedoms. You can be rich and live a comfortable lavish life, you just gotta keep order and act accordingly. You can be ruthless in killing government opposition and law breakers. The moment you are discovered killing or oppressing innocent people, you will be killed or jailed for the rest of your life. No ifs, no buts. Your life and lifestyle will be over.

The first person, might think they can get away with some stuff or that the powers that be wouldnt actually make good on their promise. After he is killed and made an example of, people will see this isnt a game and if they want power and riches, they have to toe a line.

This is probably unethical, but extreme problems call for extreme measure.

And before, someone says this has been done before, I would say no, I am not quite sure it has. If so, link me to leaders who have been killed or jailed by an outside force numerous times.

Sorry, I thought you meant Maine (ME).
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Why were North Korean communists "bad guys?" It's their country. They didn't threaten the United States.

Saddam was a bad guy, huh? Was he bad when we supported his regime and used him to fight our proxy war against Iran?

ISIS? Your country created ISIS when Iraq was destabilized.
The U.S didn't create ISIS, it just released the group from the oppressive policies of Sadam.
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Assuming you wanted to bring order and peace to the ME, there is only one real way to achieve this without spending a ton of money and resources.

You have to pick the strongest person / group in the country and give them an ultimatum.

We will install you into power and leave you to your own devices. Even help you keep it, in some instances. However, you must not infringe on personal liberties and freedoms. You can be rich and live a comfortable lavish life, you just gotta keep order and act accordingly. You can be ruthless in killing government opposition and law breakers. The moment you are discovered killing or oppressing innocent people, you will be killed or jailed for the rest of your life. No ifs, no buts. Your life and lifestyle will be over.

The first person, might think they can get away with some stuff or that the powers that be wouldnt actually make good on their promise. After he is killed and made an example of, people will see this isnt a game and if they want power and riches, they have to toe a line.

This is probably unethical, but extreme problems call for extreme measure.

And before, someone says this has been done before, I would say no, I am not quite sure it has. If so, link me to leaders who have been killed or jailed by an outside force numerous times.
Western principles cannot be incorporated into the Middle East. Islam is not compatible with western teachings.
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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Western principles cannot be incorporated into the Middle East. Islam is not compatible with western teachings.
Sure you can, just gotta have the gal, balls, and perseverance to see it through.

No one is saying complete Western principles. Just simply saying have some basic innate natural human rights and liberties.
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