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However when access to health care by insurance companies is denied because of a preexisting condition, and the costs of paying for treatments and hospital stays by an individual is prohibitive, what's the alternative?
Insurance companies are controlled and regulated by your State.
You could have fought to have your State's insurance regulators eliminate pre-existing conditions, so why didn't you?
I guess it didn't really mean that much to you.
The question you ought to be asking is why do pre-existing conditions exist in the first place?
Because your own federal government coerced health plan coverage into the hands of employers.
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So help me out here conservatives... What would be a working alternative to Obamacare and single payer?
Rescind or repeal all federal laws that crow-barred health plan coverage into the hands of employers.
Eliminate State laws that grant anti-trust exemptions to medical care providers like hospitals, plus force transparency to create Market pressure and eliminate ridiculous things like $55,000 appendectomies, $117,000 assistant surgeon fees and $1.2 Million premature birth fees.
What's wrong with eliminating federal laws so that Americans can profit off of their own catastrophic health care?
What's wrong with letting people buy Emergency Room only coverage?
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In the richest country in the world would it be possible to provide basic healthcare to its citizens as a service along with roads, firefighters, police, military etc. and still champion a capitalist government and a free citizenry?
Define "Basic Healthcare" objectively in no uncertain terms.
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Just to peruse what we as Canadians have as Universal ( which does NOT mean ALL HC Coverage)..but Necessity Coverage...Canadian's do obtain and pay for "Extended Coverages" where they can afford it..otherwise do without~~ posted a snippet..which outlines ALL HC is NOT free..however.. NO one can denied basic HC~~ and No one will go bankrupt because insurance company sues you for lack of payment..nor someone is forced to sell off or lose their assets due to illness..
Canadian provinces and territories are responsible for administering their own healthcare plans. Each must provide their residents with prepaid cover for all necessary medical services. These include financing, planning, providing medical care, hospital care, public healthcare, and dispensing prescriptions. Cover for dental treatment, optometric services, prescription drugs, hearing aids, and home care vary per province and territory.
Health policies, under the Canadian Health Act, are portable primarily within Canada, while a partial reimbursement is available for treatment outside the country. This system is made possible by funds from the federal government as well as the provincial and territorial governments. Personal and corporate income taxes are the main source of revenue, while some provinces charge residents an annual healthcare premium based on their yearly income.
Access to the healthcare system
Canada, as a whole, provides a free, basic, healthcare system for its citizens and all legal residents. This usually includes access to a family doctor and emergency care or basic hospital treatment. Some provinces like Alberta, British Columbia and Ontario charge their residents healthcare tax for this very purpose. The Canadian Health Act of 1984 states that prescription drugs and supplies are provided free in hospitals, most of the time. This is dependant on you staying in the hospital as an in-patient.
Costs begin to accumulate when you are no longer staying in the hospital and begin purchasing your own prescription drugs and medical supplies. Specialist drugs can be very expensive for one course of treatment, while other medical services such as physiotherapy, massage therapy, chiropractic treatments a
The US is about the only wealthy country that has a significant group of people who think that people going bankrupt from medical emergencies and increasing the overall cost of healthcare to all of us is better than a universal healthcare system. Ironic since we are the richest nation of all. I'm not sure that it's a conservative thing, it mainly goes back to our core cultural value of every man for himself cutthroat capitalism. In other words "I got mine so who cares about anyone else?"
I do understand the general distaste of expanding government to handle a citizen's health care. However when access to health care by insurance companies is denied because of a preexisting condition, and the costs of paying for treatments and hospital stays by an individual is prohibitive, what's the alternative?
I have two people in my life... a niece, and my best friend's daughter who now have been able to get treatment for serious conditions because of Obamacare. My friend's daughter who is still carving out her career and wants to be self-employed (often a conservative ideal) was denied coverage because of previous treatment for eczema and a thyroid condition. She went on Obama care, and thank goodness she did, because she's now being treated for chronic (survivable) Leukemia.
In my own experience, when my husband got laid off from a job over 10 years ago, we had the horribly expensive Cobra as he took independent contract work. I applied for private insurance, and was denied because I had been treated for asthma (and here's what they said was the reason for denial) with the medication Prednisone.
When I've had discussions with my right wing brother about this, he seems a little flustered and defaults to "Well, no society can have a utopia!"... this isn't a very satisfying answer to me.
The following is a letter being paraded around from a Republican to the President, thanking him for Obamacare. It's a little gooey gushing for my taste, but you can't deny his gratitude when he found himself personally on the hot seat of a health crisis.
So help me out here conservatives... What would be a working alternative to Obamacare and single payer?
In the richest country in the world would it be possible to provide basic healthcare to its citizens as a service along with roads, firefighters, police, military etc. and still champion a capitalist government and a free citizenry? Wouldn't creative hard working people who would like to start a business be freer to do so if they weren't forced to work for someone else just to get healthcare?
Or is Universal healthcare always lockstep with the left and their agenda for society?
"My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is that the amount of money you will spend on premiums will be less," Obama said. "If you are one of 45 million Americans who don't have health insurance, you will after this plan becomes law.
I pay for my own. Out of pocket. Not part of abortioncare.
Your own what?
If you have healthcare insurance, it's compliant with ACA legislation, unless it's one of those rare grandfathered plans.
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