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Flat out greedy corporate executives/upper management. Thats the only reason. They have sold america down the tubes to line their own pockets. It has nothing to do with unions.
Plain GREED. The rich just aren't satisfied with being rich now. They want to be stupidly rich to have money to last 20 lifetimes.
Until there are taxes imposed on these jerks from stopping them to ship jobs to other countries, nothing will change. Or some type of law gets enacted where it will punishable by time in prison to outsource american jobs, nothing will change.
The american sheep will keep the blinders over their eyes and continue to be used, abused, spat out, regurgitated and crapped on
Corporate executives/ upper management are employees too. Their primary job function is to increase shareholder value.
Impose taxes on a company / imprison senior management and boards of directors who ships jobs to other countries? The company will pack up the whole shebang and move elsewhere especially when their growth depends on selling product the the 95% of the world population who does not live in the US.
it goes beyond the regulations though, the unions drove a lot of industry out when they would constantly strike when their contracts were up, and force companies to pay more and more in salary and benefits to the point where companies were put in precarious financial situations.
Not really the issue...
Unions are fine, but you can`t have unions and free trade with third world nations like Mexico and China.
If you worked in Manufacturing in the 50-70's you probably know why. To those who were not there pay attention.
It is because the rest of the world was still playing catch up, and trade agreements were not as they are now.
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Back in the day when the USA was producing steel, automobiles, appliances, chemicals, they were also pumping tons of dirty air into the atmosphere and also polluting our rivers and streams.
Lovely...
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Those nasty Democrats and their EPA said to industry hey, you got to stop pollution the air and water.
The EPA was created under a Republican...
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Big business said, it is too expensive to put scrubbers to clean up the air and besides our kids breath the same air and it ain't hurting us. Yes the air is much better outside of the industry belt than where the workers live.
So what did industry do? They closed the factories in the unionized North and moved South where non unionized companies and Conservative politicians were more friendly to dirty industry.
Then somebody in Big business got the great idea of moving much of the big polluting industry to China where there are no anti pollution laws and wages are much lower than even the pitiful wages in the South.
That's how industry got moved overseas. If you want to blame anybody blame those nasty Liberals who demand that we have clean air and water. The nerve of them.
Environmental issues is not the only reason; regulation by way of employment rights also contributed. Labor costs really is less of a contributing factor than what it is hyped up to be, except when speaking in terms of maximizing profits.
Other countries have a relatively straight forward labor system, which to mean hardly none at all, and US companies often operated using third parties or partnerships, devolving them from even more responsibility.
Even at that though, the US is the largest manufacturer in the world in terms of revenue, but not in terms of employment.
If anyone read Karl Marx, he predicts this pretty damn close regarding his criticisms of capitalism.
The American worker was promised cheaper goods by politicians in order to get him to buy into globalism and free trade. Goods got cheaper and wages have steadily gotten lower. America as a nation certainly isn't poorer than it was before, it's just that free trade and globalism have eroded the middle class and shifted wealth from that area into the small, but elite minority who own the means of production to benefit from free trade. We're beginning to come to a point where the American worker is starting to have a hard time affording those cheaper goods because his wages are now so low.
It was a pretty genius move by corporatists and politicians. Globalism has brought them extreme wealth unlike anything ever seen before in American history.
The American worker was promised cheaper goods by politicians in order to get him to buy into globalism and free trade. Goods got cheaper and wages have steadily gotten lower. America as a nation certainly isn't poorer than it was before, it's just that free trade and globalism have eroded the middle class and shifted wealth from that area into the small, but elite minority who own the means of production to benefit from free trade. We're beginning to come to a point where the American worker is starting to have a hard time affording those cheaper goods because his wages are now so low.
It was a pretty genius move by corporatists and politicians. Globalism has brought them extreme wealth unlike anything ever seen before in American history.
What goods have gotten cheaper due solely to off shoring?
If they are cheaper, by how much? And are they even the same goods? Same meaning in terms of quality and materials.
What factors did monetary condition play in this price?
Unions are fine, but you can`t have unions and free trade with third world nations like Mexico and China.
It`s one or the other.
i disagree with that. you can have unions and still be competitive with other countries like china and mexico. however you have to reign in the power of the unions to do that.
Around here the only people who make a living wage are doctors and government workers.
Oh, and meth sellers.
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