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Old 03-29-2016, 02:37 PM
 
Location: CO
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
From that article...

"FICOs averaged 752 on closed conventional purchases."

See? MANUAL underwriting is working. Those with low or no FICO scores (loans which were previously specifically sought for purchase by the GSEs to meet Affordable Lending goals ) aren't even being considered for loan applications, so of course a higher percentage of mortgages are being approved. The uncreditworthy are being prescreened out, as it should be.
Same article.....
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Today's FHA buyers carry an average FICO of 686.

This is interesting because lenders have aggressively lowered their minimum FHA credit score requirements last year, with some lenders now allowing FICO scores as low as 580 FICO in order to get approved.

Plus, the FHA's Back to Work program gives FHA borrowers access to mortgages just 12 months after a bankruptcy, foreclosure or short sale, which typically makes for a low FICO.

 
Old 03-29-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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Originally Posted by le roi View Post
It seems to me that homelessness must be strongly correlated to high housing prices..
what difference does it make if an average home is $225,000 or $780,000?

to a homeless person who does not have a $20 bill in their pocket, no job, no credit etc

please explain how the elevated housing prices in the bay area could have any effect on homelessness

if they had apartments for $100 a month, they still would not be able to afford it
 
Old 03-29-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by TrexDigit View Post
Same article.....

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Today's FHA buyers carry an average FICO of 686.

This is interesting because lenders have aggressively lowered their minimum FHA credit score requirements last year, with some lenders now allowing FICO scores as low as 580 FICO in order to get approved.

Plus, the FHA's Back to Work program gives FHA borrowers access to mortgages just 12 months after a bankruptcy, foreclosure or short sale, which typically makes for a low FICO.
It's not "the lenders" who are accepting lower FICO scores for FHA loans; it's the federal government: FHA. And that's ill-advised. Giving mortgage loans to people who've already proven to be irresponsible money/debt managers? Get ready for another wash, rinse, and repeat of the 2008 mortgage meltdown. /SMH
 
Old 03-29-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: CO
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
It's not "the lenders" who are accepting lower FICO scores for FHA loans; it's the federal government: FHA. And that's ill-advised. Giving mortgage loans to people who've already proven to be irresponsible money/debt managers? Get ready for another wash, rinse, and repeat of the 2008 mortgage meltdown. /SMH
lol

Read much?

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With respect to guidelines for government-backed loans, however -- a category which includes FHA, VA, and USDA loans -- lenders weren't so friendly.

Just 7% of banks making government residential mortgages loosened guidelines last quarter. This is the same percentage as those which tightened.
 
Old 03-29-2016, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Get ready for another wash, rinse, and repeat of the 2008 mortgage meltdown.
It's coming for sure. Regardless of how many nit wits they reject. When you cook with the same rancid ingredients, you get the same slop. They're underwriting with as little as 3% down. How stupid are they?

"Federally controlled mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac announced they’ll back loans to low-income Americans who put just 3% down, even though such loans have a high default rate."

The Next Real Estate Bubble: Will Another Bring Down the U.S. Economy? - Fortune

Get Ready for Another Real Estate Bubble | The Fiscal Times

http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/governm...ble-mortgages/

Last edited by petlover8; 03-29-2016 at 03:44 PM..
 
Old 03-29-2016, 03:43 PM
 
Location: CO
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Originally Posted by petlover8 View Post
It's coming for sure. Regardless of how many nit wits they reject. When you cook the same rancid ingredients, you get the same slop.

The Next Real Estate Bubble: Will Another Bring Down the U.S. Economy? - Fortune

Get Ready for Another Real Estate Bubble | The Fiscal Times
Did you even bother reading those?

Not bubbling because of bad loans - market conditions.

You know - those things you refused to anknowledge when blaming homeowners throughout this thread.

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This time around the unorthodox capital isn’t coming in the form of international investors piling money into the U.S. mortgage bond market,
creating a doomsday machine that cranked out home loans with very little scrutiny, but from domestic institutional investors, folks buying second
and third homes and serving as landlords, and foreign buyers stowing cash in American real estate.
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In other words, it doesn’t look like irresponsible mortgage lending is inflating real estate prices beyond their fundamentals, but that doesn’t mean another form of capital won’t.
 
Old 03-29-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by petlover8 View Post
It's coming for sure. Regardless of how many nit wits they reject. When you cook with the same rancid ingredients, you get the same slop. They're underwriting with as little as 3% down. How stupid are they?

"Federally controlled mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac announced they’ll back loans to low-income Americans who put just 3% down, even though such loans have a high default rate."

The Next Real Estate Bubble: Will Another Bring Down the U.S. Economy? - Fortune

Get Ready for Another Real Estate Bubble | The Fiscal Times

Government fuels next housing collapse with unstable mortgages | New York Post
"Federally controlled" is the key phrase.

One day I hope to be too big to fail!
 
Old 03-29-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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Originally Posted by TrexDigit View Post
Not bubbling because of bad loans - market conditions.
When you write a loan for 3% down in a real estate market that is overvalued by 25% to 60%, You're writing a bad loan, period. It's called financial common sense. Try applying it sometime.
 
Old 03-29-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: CO
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Originally Posted by petlover8 View Post
It's called financial common sense. Try applying it sometime.
I've applied it throughout.

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With half a decade’s hindsight, it is clear the crisis had multiple causes. The most obvious is the financiers themselves—especially the irrationally exuberant Anglo-Saxon sort, who claimed to have found a way to banish risk when in fact they had simply lost track of it. Central bankers and other regulators also bear blame, for it was they who tolerated this folly. The macroeconomic backdrop was important, too. The “Great Moderation”—years of low inflation and stable growth—fostered complacency and risk-taking. A “savings glut” in Asia pushed down global interest rates. Some research also implicates European banks, which borrowed greedily in American money markets before the crisis and used the funds to buy dodgy securities. All these factors came together to foster a surge of debt in what seemed to have become a less risky world.
The Economist: Crash course
 
Old 03-29-2016, 04:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by TrexDigit View Post
Read much?
Again... the federal government sets FHA loan requirements, etc.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ing-standards/

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...018-story.html
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