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Old 03-12-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Nope. Repeal residential zoning restrictions (e.g. allow smaller lots and allow greater density). Residential zoning (protectionist supply control for incumbent homeowners) and rent control (protectionist price control for incumbent renters) are mirror images of each other and should either both be allowed or both be prohibited - government should not pick sides or choose winners and losers by allowing only one but not the other.
The only way to significantly increase the housing inventory in San Francisco is by displacing more of the poor and middle class, or by turning the City into a soulless clone of Manhattan by replacing most of the existing housing with skyscrapers. Something tells me you have never been to San Francisco or you wouldn't suggest such a thing

 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Liberals are happy to tax you in order to warehouse poor and non-white people in Someone Else's Neighborhood.
Then why aren't they doing so in San Francisco? Why aren't liberal San Francisco residents paying up to fund the poor and the homeless?
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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That's not true. Chicago's residential areas are not racially integrated, and public schools have residential boundaries.

Chicago: America's most segregated city - Jan. 5, 2016

Which is a quaint artifact of American culture which should be retired.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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Humans are hierarchical social animals and thus classist. Liberals at least are willing to tax us in order to house the poor and non-white Somewhere Else.
Apparently not when it means taxing themselves, hence... San Francisco's huge homeless problem.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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Then why aren't they doing so in San Francisco? Why aren't liberal San Francisco residents paying up to fund the poor and the homeless?

Where would it stop? If they funded the poor and the homeless, when would the incoming flow end?
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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Apparently not when it means taxing themselves, hence... San Francisco's huge homeless problem.

That's the story of federalism and localism. Nobody wants to pay for it locally so Congress is given a problem they cannot possibly resolve.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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And your solution to segregation is what?
It's the liberals who claim to be inclusive. I'd like to see evidence of that. Blue states have the highest segregation rates and the highest income/wealth inequality rates. Let's see liberals turn that around and give us examples of how their ideology works to create more equality for all.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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It's the liberals who claim to be inclusive. I'd like to see evidence of that. Blue states have the highest segregation rates and the highest income/wealth inequality rates. Let's see liberals turn that around and give us examples of how their ideology works to create more equality for all.

Maybe blue states --> larger welfare state --> greater sense of entitlement --> expanded underclass / culture of poverty --> middle class / white flight ???
 
Old 03-12-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Which is a quaint artifact of American culture which should be retired.
Public school residential boundaries? I agree.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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Where would it stop? If they funded the poor and the homeless, when would the incoming flow end?
You're beginning to understand the problem of taxing the productive to fund an exponentially increasing noncontributing population who receive a financial incentive to remain noncontributing.
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