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Old 01-27-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
Show us one poll where Trump is above 50%. We'll wait.
1. Show me one poll in the elections season that was not corrupt.

2. Show me how your polling is meaningful, given the results of the 2016 election and the polling in that period.

3. Show me how your random 50% hurdle has political meaning and doesn't out you as statistically, politically, and historically inept, given that the election was not even won by a margin of 50%.

I'll wait.

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If the same methodology is consistently used over time, it doesn’t matter who paid for the poll. Math is math.
By your statement, its obvious that you don't do math and don't know how polling works.

You may want to consider not referencing domains that you have no real knowledge of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_...and_statistics

Math inherent in polling methodology (valid and invalid) is certainly not the same across polls because methodology can widely differ, assuming that any poll has valid methodology. Most polls provably did not have valid methodology in the 2016 election season, but were instead corrupted for demoralization purposes against Trump's voting base. Its the same tactic that is being used here, which is why people are calling you on your consistent and ridiculous propaganda, given your use of the same nonsense and discredited tools that your side got caught using before. Trump won the election in spite of "polls" that showed that Hillary had up to a 95% chance to win. Valid math and polling methodology does not miss the mark like that. Corrupt propaganda and statistical manipulation does. Fake News intentionally misses that mark to the point that it should be considered election interference.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/


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Your hero is as popular as herpes, and since most Presidents get less popular over time, these are probably his “Glory Days”.
"Herpes" would be your sides consistent efforts to undermine democracy.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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It might be helpful to use a real poll. Rasmussen which skunked the ABC poll in the 2016 election, currently has the president at a 44% approval rating. And this is with the paid leftwing media hounding him 24/7 with personal attacks, fake allegations, and just plain mean lies.
The Rasmussen poll currently shows 45% approval and 54% disapproval, so -9% overall. Still a record, by a lot, for any president since tracking began.

It's also important to point out that "negative" media coverage does not equal bias if the reality is actually negative. It would be biased to report something neutral that is clearly negative.

It's also important to point out that the "personal attacks, fake allegations, and just plain mean lies" you mention (but don't cite examples of) are themselves the claims of Fox and various niche non-mainstream news sources.

Arguing that mainstream sources are biased because your fringe sources said so is not cool
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Average Approval of Presidents After 2 Years In Office

Best To Worst in History

1. John F. Kennedy: Approve 74% Disapprove 13% (Net +61%)
2. George W. Bush: Approve 72% Disapprove 24% (Net +48%)
3. Lyndon B. Johnson: Approve 70% Disapprove 16% (Net +54%)
4. George H.W. Bush: Approve 69% Disapprove 27% (Net +42%)
5. Dwight D. Eisenhower: Approve 67% Disapprove 19% (Net +48%)
6. Richard M. Nixon: Approve 59% Disapprove 23% (Net +36%)
7. Ronald Reagan: Approve 56% Disapprove 36% (Net +20%)
8. Harry Truman: Approve 55% Disapprove 32% (Net +23%)
9. Barack Obama: Approve 55% Disapprove 41% (Net +14%)
10. Jimmy Carter: Approve 54% Disapprove 30% (Net +24%)
11. Bill Clinton: Approve 51% Disapprove 43% (Net +8%)
12. Gerald Ford: Approve 46% Disapprove 37% (Net +9%)
13. Donald Trump: Approve 38% Disapprove 57% (Net -19%)


Donald Trump is the only President in Polling History to be underwater after 2 years in office, and he’s underwater by a mile. Usually, a President is more popular in the first years of his term than later on. The only exception to that among his polled predecessors was Reagan.


https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/...mpression=true

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Old 01-27-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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NBC/WSJ: Trump Approval: 43% | Pelosi Favorable: 28% | Trump Favorable: 39%

So for anyone hearing that Trump's approval is falling through the floor, you are listening to liars. You should stop doing that.
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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You say Trump is at 39%. I say it's much higher, there's a ton of women who support Trump. For example, the Pro Life movement among the young is growing and growing hugely. They see those 3D videos of those babies in the womb with heartbeats and faces, those aren't just fetus's.
I pulled the averages from wiki:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...pproval_rating

It listed the average from Gallup polls - Jan 20, 2017-present. The Obama average was also sourced from Gallup.
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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Rasmussen, like all but one nationally recognized polling company, concluded Hillary the winner of the POPULAR vote. The only difference among polls was the number of points.

Rasmussen projected Republicans leading Democrats as late as 11/5, before the 2018 midterms.

Trump has demonstrated a tendency to cherry pick poll results that seem to favor him and dismiss those that don’t, not too different than most folk.

So agree with me about Rasmussen being accurate. Excellent. Trump 44% approval. Not too bad, given the 24/7 barrage of attacks.
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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NBC/WSJ: Trump Approval: 43% | Pelosi Favorable: 28% | Trump Favorable: 39%

So for anyone hearing that Trump's approval is falling through the floor, you are listening to liars. You should stop doing that.
Pelosi won her district with 86.8% of the vote. She is popular in her district, which is all she has to worry about. Trump, on the other hand, has to worry about the entire country. And at this point, it's not looking so good for him.
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Boston
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congress has a 13% approval rating, making Trump's look like nationwide adoration.
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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congress has a 13% approval rating, making Trump's look like nationwide adoration.
Except for a temporary spike after 9/11, Congressional approval has been consistently low for decades.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx

No other president, however, has been as low as Trump has been on such a consistent basis. And no other president has the distinction of never cracking the 50% mark of approval. Not a single one.

See the difference?
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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Except for a temporary spike after 9/11, Congressional approval has been consistently low for decades.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx

No other president, however, has been as low as Trump has been on such a consistent basis. And no other president has the distinction of never cracking the 50% mark of approval. Not a single one.

See the difference?
I think the main, and interesting, take away from Trump's approval ratings is consistency. It's been consistently low for basically his entire presidency. Almost all presidents have major ups and downs.
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