Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-16-2016, 11:07 AM
 
18 posts, read 17,492 times
Reputation: 109

Advertisements

Americans do very poorly on personal freedom compared to Europeans, it is true. But its basically due to two factors, expensive education and healthcare. Fix those two, and personal freedom will be at least as good as in Europe.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-16-2016, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
22,216 posts, read 21,502,489 times
Reputation: 7608
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
LOL.

You guys need to get out of this country more often!

I happened to have lived in some of those countries. They aren't as free as USA. They are socialist countries though.

I take one example. Firearm ownership, a huge indicator for individual or human freedom. None of the top 10 guarantees firearm ownership like we do.

A truly free country would be a libertarian country where individual freedom and responsibility are truly valued. A country with the freedom to own everything, pay no property or personal taxes, marry whom you want and with legal gambling, prostitution and drugs etc. and without political correctness.
I don't think any of the countries on that list, could be considered socialist.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 12:14 PM
 
26,694 posts, read 14,465,319 times
Reputation: 8094
Quote:
Originally Posted by BruSan View Post
Yeppers; and because Carter says she also rushed right on down there to arrest him, throw in for months and put the case before the courts to have it languish for two years until the supreme court has had enough time to consider if indeed it was HATE speech rather than merely insulting or offending as you mistakenly characterize the law in Canada.

I notice you still haven't provided a link to a similar case in Canada ........
13-year-old boy arrested for posting fight footage to Facebook
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 12:20 PM
 
46,776 posts, read 25,701,189 times
Reputation: 29283
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
That is true. Virtually all the top 10 countries except for Canada do not have free exit. Everybody must go through exit control before being allowed to leave the country.
Interesting. All those times I rode my motorcycle across national borders without stopping must have been figments of my imagination.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
25,349 posts, read 16,998,418 times
Reputation: 36950
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Krab View Post
Why do some Americans still believe that the United States is the world's most "free" nation?

Its rankings on indexes conducted by various institutions are nothing to brag about. The overemphasis on "freedom" in America seems disingenuous to me. The U.S. is not that exceptional.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone to be honest so that performance can improve? Assuming that America is unquestionably the best at everything empowers the status quo. It gives them an excuse to not accommodate for progress.

Why do some Americans continue to look down on other nationalities, as though their cultures and governments are incapable of providing them with an equal or better level of freedom?
I'd sure love to see the list of freedoms you are being denied.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 12:29 PM
 
4,852 posts, read 2,961,494 times
Reputation: 6652
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Yeah, well...

Regardless, I thank my lucky stars that by mere accident of birth that I'm an American.

Life in so much of the rest of the world is pretty miserable in comparison.

Latin America?

Africa?

Middle East?

Asia?

No thanks.
I lived in the Dominican Republic for 2 years, and had much more freedom.
Less government generally means more freedom, cops don't sit on roads doing speed patrols to raise tax revenue while using taxpayer gas to do so. I am not forced to purchase auto insurance, which is a huge scam lobbied for by the insurance industry. I am not forced to pay for services I don't need, or to educate other peoples' children via my property taxes.

The list goes on.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
38,859 posts, read 25,382,585 times
Reputation: 24780
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbiz1 View Post
I lived in the Dominican Republic for 2 years, and had much more freedom.
Less government generally means more freedom, cops don't sit on roads doing speed patrols to raise tax revenue while using taxpayer gas to do so. I am not forced to purchase auto insurance, which is a huge scam lobbied for by the insurance industry. I am not forced to pay for services I don't need, or to educate other peoples' children via my property taxes.
So, why didn't you stay?

Quote:
The list goes on.
Different strokes and all that.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 01:36 PM
 
22,923 posts, read 15,368,343 times
Reputation: 16962
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
"Insulting" or "offensive" being compared to an actual assault taking place and filming it as a witness? Even as a juvenile, that is witnessing a crime and criminal facilitation of same by publishing it, which would result in his detention in the U.S. also. You know this already though, don't you?

I'll categorize that as a fail.

Keep looking though, you might find something that will support the other idiot poster's "hoosegow for an insult" claim regarding Canada as being less free than the U.S.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 01:46 PM
 
22,923 posts, read 15,368,343 times
Reputation: 16962
Quote:
Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
I'd sure love to see the list of freedoms you are being denied.
U.S. Plummets in Global Press Freedom Rankings | Free Press

The one that encompasses a bunch of them would have been that stupid Patriot Act and it's newly named Freedom Act that allows for all the same stuff but with a contradictory name.

Debate on Patriot Act and First Amendment continues | First Amendment Center

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_Act

5 Ways Patriot Act Violates Fourth Amendment

How The Patriot Act Violates Virtually The Entire*Bill Of Rights
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-16-2016, 01:51 PM
 
2,491 posts, read 2,666,076 times
Reputation: 3388
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbiz1 View Post
I lived in the Dominican Republic for 2 years, and had much more freedom.
Less government generally means more freedom, cops don't sit on roads doing speed patrols to raise tax revenue while using taxpayer gas to do so. I am not forced to purchase auto insurance, which is a huge scam lobbied for by the insurance industry. I am not forced to pay for services I don't need, or to educate other peoples' children via my property taxes.

The list goes on.


I hear Somalia is nice this time of year.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top