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Old 03-20-2016, 07:15 PM
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Where you in 2004 when Diebold was the heavy player in electronic voting machines?

Anyway to answer you question, no I'm not concern just because you throw around the big bad scary Soros, or any other name for that matter. What would concern me is the make up of the actual system itself. Its security features, accountability, and the ability to independently audit the system. Who makes them isn't my concern, or being scared off by button pushing words and phrases.
Many of us were pressing for auditable paper trails.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'm sure tally were more accurate back in the day of the paper ballot shoved in boxes counted by corrupted people.

How did that work out in the Iowa primaries in 2012 when the wrong candidate was announced the winner?
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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Where you in 2004 when Diebold was the heavy player in electronic voting machines?

Anyway to answer you question, no I'm not concern just because you throw around the big bad scary Soros, or any other name for that matter. What would concern me is the make up of the actual system itself. Its security features, accountability, and the ability to independently audit the system. Who makes them isn't my concern, or being scared off by button pushing words and phrases.
Oh Great !!! Now we have to become experts on voting machines and systems. No wonder most people don't vote. Who really wants to invest so much time in a game you can't win.
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Old 03-21-2016, 04:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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I'm sure tally were more accurate back in the day of the paper ballot shoved in boxes counted by corrupted people.

How did that work out in the Iowa primaries in 2012 when the wrong candidate was announced the winner?
You ever been involved in anything Tech?



At least with paper there is a physical "trail" to count.
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Old 03-21-2016, 04:29 AM
 
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I'm sure tally were more accurate back in the day of the paper ballot shoved in boxes counted by corrupted people.

How did that work out in the Iowa primaries in 2012 when the wrong candidate was announced the winner?
You seem naive to the risks.

Analysis: Professor exposes more voting system flaws - CNN.com

The University of Michigan had an Assistant Professor who hacked into a voting system for Washington DC that was billed as "impossible" to hack into.

He was able to change votes, change candidate's names, and see who voted for who...without getting noticed.

He also was able to make the voting program play Pac-Man and the UofM fight song. In fact, it went undetected that he had breached it, until the voting machines started playing "Hail to the Victors."

He also noticed while hacking in, that hackers from Iran and China were attempting to hack in to the voting system.


But you are right...have no fear of a system that can easily be manipulated with minimal trace. No ID to vote, right?
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Old 03-21-2016, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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You ever been involved in anything Tech?
At least with paper there is a physical "trail" to count.

Soros predominantly supports only one political Party in the US. Not that he will not support anybody that pushes his agenda. But that is the problem. Why would we turn over the keys to our elections to anybody that has an ax to grind in the outcome?


Our system is so corrupt that we allow politicians to gerrymander, or to set unrealistic goals for signatures to stop third Party candidates, or by allowing illegal residents the chance to vote, somebody is always looking for ways to influence the system. Soros or the Koch brothers; neither ones should be allowed close to our polling machines.
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Old 03-21-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: a declining nation
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I'm sure tally were more accurate back in the day of the paper ballot shoved in boxes counted by corrupted people.

How did that work out in the Iowa primaries in 2012 when the wrong candidate was announced the winner?
Absolutely. Demanding a recount brought in a third party to physically count the ballots.

That cannot be done today.
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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"It is highly improbable based on the demonstration that the successful intrusion could be done by outside hackers. If the successful effort to tamper with the system is subsequently proven, since we have eliminated the possibility of outside hacking, then the only remaining possibility is an inside job," Verzola said.
Locsin committee to clear Smartmatic of poll fraud (1)

Was the Smartmatic machine used to commit fraud? Analysis of the Acts is providing evidence that the Smartmatic voting machines may have manipulated the results, and we are naturally very concerned.
Electoral Fraud in Venezuela (2)

How has a little family-run company of three relatives and two friends, all Venezuelans, based in a house in Boca Raton in 2003, been able to take control of the counting of the votes for 40 million Americans?
Who's Fixing Elections? Sequoia-Smartmatic-Unisys(3)
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How do you feel about elections worldwide being administered
by these groups ?

Are you concerned that online voting could be manipulated ?

Why is the Utah Republican Party letting a Soros board member's
firm conduct their caucus Tuesday ?

Soros Board Member Chairs Firm Running Online Voting for Tuesday’s Utah Caucuses

Smartmatic is changing the way the world votes.

News - Smartmatic
Of course people are concerned. Dems have been concerned for years and years, but nobody seemed to care when it was Cheney or Romney.

Romney investment in voting machines uncovered

Voting Machine Corporations Controlled by Republicans tied to Bush

Who is counting your vote? Diebold & Bush vs. the public interest » peoplesworld

Was the 2004 Election Stolen? - In These Times

Meet the new Diebold CEO, same as the old one
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: a declining nation
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The Romney "investment" was debunked.

His son did not own a voting machine company. The false "fact" was started by liberal bloggers and then stated publicly by elected Democrats as "fact".

This same article also debunks the Diebold conspiracy, also started by liberals.


Does Tagg Romney ‘Own’ Ohio Voting Machines?
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