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View Poll Results: Would you torture a Terrorists family member to save innocent lives?
Yes, war is killing people and breaking things, do what has to be done 102 72.34%
Only if it would save a substantial number of lives 11 7.80%
Only the terrorist themself not family if they are innocent 15 10.64%
Never even if it means saving a whole city from total destruction. 13 9.22%
Voters: 141. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-24-2016, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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Would you torture a terrorist if it meant you could get info to stop a bombing? How far would you go? Personally I firmly believe that even if we had to torture the terrorists family to death it would be worth it. War is a messy business, no one like to see how sausage is made. You can not have it for breakfast by petting a cow. Blood must be spilled. Where is your line? If it would save 100 people would you torture the child of a terrorist in front of them to get info? What if it was a Nuke and you would save a million people? IMO if we want to win we have to do what ever it takes. Extraordinary times take extraordinary measures. I know the Hippie liberal will say never the same Dukaus idiot answer that he would not want the death penalty for someone who rapped and murdered his wife. This only leads to more crime and more death. Some times you have to cut off the arm to save the body. Sorry liberal but this is the real world not some kumbya world.
How would you know that you could get info to stop a bombing?

Why would a terrorist tell you, even under torture, truthful information, when they could lie instead? All the terrorist has to do is stall you if the bombing is imminent. If the bombing isn't imminent, then you would have other ways and time to head off this bombing that you know is coming.

And are YOU going to be the one doing the torture?
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: louisville
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I love all the thoughtful, well reasoned, qualifications. I also like the 'torture doesn't work', torture can work' idealogical debate, each trotting out former interrogators to support (here come the links we've all seen).

I'm simple: yes.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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I love all the thoughtful, well reasoned, qualifications. I also like the 'torture doesn't work', torture can work' idealogical debate, each trotting out former interrogators to support (here come the links we've all seen).

I'm simple: yes.
YOU would personally torture another human being?
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Hey, let's behead their children in front of them, if it yields no intel we can always claim the 'monkey see' monkey do' defense and go far towards killing the notion America is somehow 'different'.

It'd bring peace because there'd be no reason to fight them, we'd be just like them.
This is what really kills me. The mentality that says, "These people are animals! So we have to be animals, too!"

People who believe this hate America and what we're supposed to stand for. And then they call themselves "patriots." It's obvious, from what they want to turn this country into, that they don't know the meaning of the word.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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Without question. I don't consider these nutjobbers human.

Truth be told, most people on this thread would torture someone to save a loved one from a horrific fate. It's just easy to take the moral high ground on anonymous internet forums.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Death or Bunga Bunga.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Without question. I don't consider these nutjobbers human.
You couldn't think of them as human and torture them. Could you?

The ability to torture someone, like the ability to own someone, requires that you think of your victim as less than human.

But to do that requires that you lose some of your own humanity.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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You couldn't think of them as human and torture them. Could you?

The ability to torture someone, like the ability to own someone, requires that you think of your victim as less than human.

But to do that requires that you lose some of your own humanity.
That's the female brain talking.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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That's the female brain talking.
It's the male brain that has gotten us to this place to begin with.
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