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Old 03-24-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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War on drugs-horribly driven by racist-origins <News Article>Tue, Mar 22
This post is written for the thinking minds- who dare to expand concepts and see a broader paradigm to progress for ALL American People.

Now, many truths are being told decades after some of the people who were leaders have passed on. It's time for America to know these things, in this age and time of so much, truth is the best medicine to face up to the wrongs of the past and build a better future.

Therefore;

The Awakening of America - Exposing The Confounding Twist > Understanding the Dynamics of Collusion's - Race-Drugs and Political Quandary, the severity of the reverberating effects of these wrong way agenda's impact much of society to this very day.

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A former adviser to President Richard Nixon said the war on drugs was invented to criminalize black people and suppress the radical left, according to an article published by Harper's.
From the time of Nixon, who's administration was instrumental to convert the Southern Democrats over to the Republican party, because the Southern Democrats were unable to contain and squash "Civil Rights Bills" as Southern Democrats, they tried to infiltrate and ultimately they did "dominate" the Republican party and push their agenda and the agenda's system, these efforts have not ceased to purse those objectives.
What resulted was the Northern Democrats and the ideology of support for Civil Rights became a focal point of the Democratic party, once the Southern Democrats moved on to the Republican party and hijacked its system and the systems agenda, to continue to push "divides within society".
There was massive efforts to block, stall, delay and dismantle Civil Rights Movements by any and many means.

Let's look at some variables

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War on drugs-horribly driven by racist-origins News article>Tue, Mar 22

A former adviser to President Richard Nixon said the war on drugs was invented to criminalize black people and suppress the radical left, according to an article published by Harper's.
The exodus of Industry, was another tool utilized by the Nixon Administration, by pushing to export all of the Mineral and Ore processing to China. This would bust up the power of the Steel Workers unions before blacks and women could get in and build a economic viable life of economic equilibrium. They know the loss of jobs and the increase in crime would follow along with drugs. It was in many ways promoted for the sake of containment programming of minorities, as well as dire poor whites would be too a collateral damage, but they had as much disdain for the dire poor whites, but just not as much as was held toward blacks. Certainly, there was no desire to see black people nor dire poor whites gain economic equilibrium.
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Michelle Alexander outlined how the drug war was originally designed as a form of social control in her book The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness. During the 1960s and 1970s, "[as] factories closed, jobs were shipped overseas, de-industrialization and globalization led to depression in inner-city communities nationwide, and crime rates began to rise," Alexander told Frontline.

"And as they rose and the backlash against the civil rights movement reached a fever pitch, the get-tough movement exploded into a zeal for incarceration, and a war on drugs was declared," she explained.
The exodus of Industry was another tool utilized by the Nixon Administration, by pushing to export all of the Mineral and Ore processing to China. This would bust up the power of the Steel Workers unions before blacks and women could get in and build a economic viable life of economic equilibrium. They know the loss of jobs and the increase in crime would follow along with drugs. It was in many ways promoted for the sake of containment programming of minorities, as well as dire poor whites would be too a collateral damage, but they had as much disdain for the dire poor whites, but just not as much as was held toward blacks. Certainly, there was no desire to see black people nor dire poor whites gain economic equilibrium.




The madness of a convoluted agenda gone awry.

During the 1980's Reagan Administration, he continued the policies to devastate black and dire poor whites society, first he continued his dismantling of funding for State and Community colleges. By the time of Reagan, he proceeded to flood the black and poor whites with cheap cocaine from Central America, until the saturation of drugs in these communities set them back 100 yrs, while at the same time, pushing a "Just Say No, campaign, to ultimately get the Middle and Upper Class whites un addicted. Soon as the addiction numbers decreased in these Middle and Upper Middle Class, suddenly, the funding and closure of drug rehab and the coverage to support rehab dried up as well.
By then, the highways for drug importations were well established, covertly run, and covertly protected to continue the flow of drugs into the poor black and poor white communities.

Many unexpected consequences evolved, such as meth, pills and re-emerge of the late 1960 Heroin among the mid-western and rural america followed by the pill epidemic.
Along with this process, the exodus of "industry escalated upward and left the country as if they were loaded on a rocket and shipped away.

The class gap was firmly established and in place, this has led to a widening of the economic gap to levels which cannot be bridged or balanced. The cast system is entrenched in ways today which renders America into an Oligarchy, with wealthy holding the Authorization position, while they push for a Plutocratic system and a Monarchical program run by the Wealthy.

The Confounding of Political Atmosphere = A public confused

Today, there are candidates of speak of it, which is Clinton, Sanders and Trump - They all speak about the horrors of the economic imbalances and the destitution American people have been relegated. Sanders and some of the very wealthy along with Rand Paul spoke and continue to speak about the terrible horrors of black male incarceration and the continuing exaggerated publication of materials to promote a anti black mentality. The violence in the black communities is not an anomaly, nor it is without construction. The old history of pitting blacks against blacks simply took on a variety of models. Without jobs, the process of this escalating was part of the original plan. When such chaos reigns, the wealthy become more wealthy and the disruption in black and poor white communities breeds anguish, violence, and the horrors we see in the media each day.

Contrast that with the levels of profits moving in the hands of the wealthy is beyond number the average people can even fathom.

The Establishment of Republican System, continue to push divide mentality in the likes of Ted Cruz, Rubio and the host of others who fell off the campaign block, but now they push by other means.



One aspect of Trump, unliked by the establishment, is he did expose the banking madness, he has exposed the vile in Industrial Outsourcing, and he exposed the vile of agreements that are unfavorable to uplift America in regards to International Trade.
The problem with Trump is: he does not know how to address these things and get the poor whites who have been misled and hoodwinked with racism and taught to blame the racism on blacks, but the true blame for racism is on the Republican Being in support of the Industrial Wealth Mentality of those who still aspire to the Nixon Ideology, and the Reagan system, all of which have too much of the similarities in their core beliefs the same as the 1960's Governor George Wallace.

If Trump knew how to explain to those poor and uneducated and under-educated whites who clamor to his campaign with their racism being a driving undercurrent, he would tell them, that the issue of current condition and de-industrialization in America were meant to promote racism among poor whites, as well as keep a vast distance between the working poor, dire poor whites and conflict in the streets with blames against blacks, the result of such construction, causes Poor Whites and Blacks from becoming economically stable and on a economic upward trajectory. Trump simply does not know how to frame it up to explain it. If this group of whites were told these truth, they'd understand how they were "hoodwinked and betrayed" to be the pawns of the wealthy, to keep havoc in the streets while the wealthy fill their coffers and distance themselves from the masses. They would then too understand they fight against themselves, in their concepts of segregated mentality and misplaced blames and animosities against blacks and others. They would learn, they are not more than considered as members of "The Poor". (THE POOR is made up of POOR WHITES, WORKING POOR WHITES, DIRE POOR WHITES AND BLACKS AND OTHER MINORITIES.) They cannot rise above this without the unity of The Poor, becoming aware of their need to be unified.

This is a message, sadly, Trump does not know how to convey. Sander's has addressed it, but he does so in the America way of softer approach, but the problem with Sanders is he proposes massive system changes which the wealthy know he can't deliver. Hillary, understand these things, and she too would like to change it to make it better for all people, but she is directed in focus to the massive problems of International conflict and the threat of Middle East Instability, while at the same time, she knows that social instability helps the wealthy become more wealthy, thus making it even harder for the average American to get uplift economically. She wants to bridge the gap and bring America together, and uplift "The Poor". She too understand the need for Industry, as well as; she knows, a drastic pull of industry from around the globe, only sets up a conflict scenario for America and will lead to a protectionism war among nations, which is economically devastation, not only to America but Global nations.
Therefore, she does have a good and deep grasp of understanding the multitude of matters and the need for diplomacy, as well as the needs for changes. She is the best positioned and qualified at this time in history and our political quandry, to be and become President.

The Set Up for a Political Paring that Could - Shock Awake the America People- and Unify the mass to make a better America, while maintaining peace in the International Community.

Is:
Here is the wake up shocker, none have focused to consider: before you panic, "Think Deeply and Expansively".
A ticket that might be surprising and not even discussed might just be a Clinton-Trump Presidency, with Trump as the VP in charge of Economic Policy in the structured rebuilding of Americans Industry and economic international trade relations, without being a drastic impact to offset world politics and world economics. That is a very very delicate matter. Trump could effectively do this job, but it would need to be in position of Vice President, not as President. (Trump knows this!!!)
Trump does not know enough about the inter-working of International Policy, to become President, but he could be effective under the Vice President position, because he could be managed in that role, and still push to achieve the economic improvements that are beneficial to America. Trump also knows that Hillary is the best choice for President, but the issue is, he can't campaign to be Vice President, so he pushes the position aim, but is already prepared to hopefully be offered the Vice Presidential position. He has not relinquised the concept of a Third Party Position, but he knows it is not feasible, but the idea of such, indicates that he is positioning himself to be and want to be the Vice Presidential running mate and he wants to be the lead person in the Economic Policy of a Clinton Administration.

(NO ONE has seen this scenario, because people are caught up in the drama) But if one remembers the drama between Clinton and Obama, one then understand how the campaign conflict, is not the reality which comes to exist, because Clinton was immediately tapped for the Secretary of State, in the same opponent President she campaigned against.

This means, the Secretary of State position would become very very important, and Kerry would stay on in that role, to ensure there is logical management on the diplomatic levels as we move forward.

This rules out Sanders and this Rules out Cruz, their ideas are too radical and lead to a massive destabilization both domestic and internationally. The Global system is too turbulent to try and do what they aim to do. Cruz, would be such a domestic disaster and he'd inflame International relation in ways that can't be reversed.

People must listen beyond the drama and see the big picture- We need people in the positions they are best suited to serve and their expertise can best be utilized.

The Awakening of America - To... learn to change its course

The Media made and pushed Trump, by the incessant Air Time they gave him for free, yet, the media was chasing sound bits, unaware of what they were doing, they only wanted ratings, this is how and why Trump was able to push the envelope. The Media is still to this date unaware of how they created the stand out of Trump over the other candidates. The good thing, is the economic exposure Trump pushed of exposing banks, and exposing CEO and their dismantling of American Industry. This is where it becomes beneficial for Trump to help lead in the economic policy, but not to be President to lead the nation as a whole.

Wake Up America!!!!!! Think - Learn and Become Aware.

This is what and how political gridlock is abolished, by a unlikely paring, which at the same times bring parties to a forced position of unity to work together.

This is the Un-heard of Change which may become the remaking of America in a system of Unity Building and destroying the partisan gridlock.

Everyone knows the War of Drugs has not worked, but everyone did not know why it was enacted or how drug saturation grew. But it is known that it has to change.

These things are tied together, in both Current Events as well as Political System. We as people must learn to tie the dots, and know that knots have been tied of abstract components, illogical to us, but logical to the system and the aims of segregating "The Poor" from the wealthy. Be mindful to know, THE POOR is made up of POOR WHITES, WORKING POOR WHITES, DIRE POOR WHITES AND BLACKS AND OTHER MINORITIES.

These points and inter-links discussed is far beyond what the average person has considered to acknowledge, But speak directly to the American situation and its condition.

To Grasp understandings, please read with an unbiased mind, Go read the Speech, at the end of the March on Selma ".

You will begin to understand whom "The Poor" is comprised of and how, The Poor - can unify America and make it economically and socially prosperous.
Looking at the vast expanse- there is many factors at play, of which American people must look at a variety of factors.

Will expound more on these dynamics in coming comment postings.

Last edited by Chance and Change; 03-24-2016 at 12:28 PM.. Reason: Discussing moderation

 
Old 03-24-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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It would help if people would find the will to quit voting for candidates, who take money from private prison companies. Because after they win, don't be surprised if they don't want to do anything to decriminalize drugs. And, instead, make deals with private prison companies guaranteeing them as much as 98% occupancy.
 
Old 03-24-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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All I know is that resulting from either from apathy, laziness or bad personal choices, most people that use marijuana four or more times a week end up working in the lower end of the pay scale. To me, it shows that marijuana is far from harmless and hardly the wonder drug millennials are desperately trying to pimp it up to be.

That being said, I do believe it should be decriminalized. Stoners have a hard enough time landing a good job without the stigma of a criminal record impeding their attempts to do so.
 
Old 03-24-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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It would help if people would find the will to quit voting for candidates, who take money from private prison companies. Because after they win, don't be surprised if they don't want to do anything to decriminalize drugs. And, instead, make deals with private prison companies guaranteeing them as much as 98% occupancy.
Those contracts should be declared null and void.
 
Old 03-24-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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It would help if people would find the will to quit voting for candidates, who take money from private prison companies. Because after they win, don't be surprised if they don't want to do anything to decriminalize drugs. And, instead, make deals with private prison companies guaranteeing them as much as 98% occupancy.
I have no problem with decriminalizing marijuana. But you would have to be an idiot to think the decriminalization of hard dope like crack, meth and heroin would be beneficial to society in any way, shape or form. Just look at 70's Harlem, 80's Compton and the areas of Russia where Krokodil runs unchecked through the population to see how much these drugs can do. Vice ran a report on Krokodil that I watched yesterday and it was quite terrifying in its implications.
 
Old 03-24-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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I have no problem with decriminalizing marijuana. But you would have to be an idiot to think the decriminalization of hard dope like crack, meth and heroin would be beneficial to society in any way, shape or form. Just look at 70's Harlem, 80's Compton and the areas of Russia where Krokodil runs unchecked through the population to see how much these drugs can do. Vice ran a report on Krokodil that I watched yesterday and it was quite terrifying in its implications.
Harlem and Compton in those years were worsened by the war on drugs.

That said I have problems with legalizing meth and crack. But prohibition does not work. Putting people in prison never cured addiction nor made drug problems any better. Prison only cured heterosexuality, it didn't cure addiction or the problems generated by the war on drugs.
 
Old 03-24-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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All I know is that resulting from either from apathy, laziness or bad personal choices, most people that use marijuana four or more times a week end up working in the lower end of the pay scale. To me, it shows that marijuana is far from harmless and hardly the wonder drug millennials are desperately trying to pimp it up to be.

That being said, I do believe it should be decriminalized. Stoners have a hard enough time landing a good job without the stigma of a criminal record impeding their attempts to do so.
Which is why the Coke users of the 70's and early 80's were white collar guys working long weekends. That's what Coke was used for. Not until crack came about and poor people could afford it did Cocaine become a problem.

Rich people and Coke - just fine.

Poor people and crack - jail time.
 
Old 03-24-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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Famous People Arrested on Marijuana Charges

Movie and TV Stars:

Robert Mitchum - Famous actor and one of the first celebrity victims of marijuana prohibition. Mitchum was arrested in a 1948 stakeout in Laurel Canyon, CA.

Source: High Times

Bob Denver - Played lovable character 'Gilligan' on popular 60's television show Gilligan's Island. Arrested in 1998 after a package containing two ounces of marijuana was delivered to his West Virginia house.

Source: Associated Press, Princeton, WV

Oliver Stone - Filmmaker of renowned movies JFK, Platoon and Born on the Fourth of July, pulled over by police officers for driving erratically and subsequently arrested when hash and painkillers were found in his car.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle, August 25, 1999

Matthew McConaughey - Actor in such popular movies as Dazed and Confused and Amistad busted in his Texas home after numerous noise complaints from neighbors. Officers saw him dancing naked and playing bongos. He was arrested and booked on suspicion of possession of marijuana and paraphernalia.

Source: Houston Chronicle, October 26, 1999

Brad Renfro - Actor in 1994 movie The Client arrested on marijuana (and cocaine charges).

Source: The Associated Press, April 6, 1999



Musicians, Singers and Performers:

Whitney Houston - Grammy winning pop diva was busted boarding an airplane in Hawaii. Officers found 15.2 grams in her bag.

Source: Boston Globe, January 17, 2000

Ray Price - 73 year old country music singer was arrested in his Texas home for possession of marijuana.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle, March 26, 1999

Snoop Doggy Dog - Famous rapper and protégé of Dr. Dre arrested at a Los Angeles comedy club for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana.

Source: San Francisco Examiner, May 3, 1998

Savion Glover - Tony-winning tap dancer was charged with disorderly conduct after police pulled his car over in New York city. He was smoking a "blunt" in his car and police charged him with possession of marijuana.

Source: Washington Post, June 12, 1996

James Brown - Godfather of Soul busted on marijuana and other charges.

Source: Reuters , Aiken, SC, January 29, 1998

The Rolling Stones - Band members were busted several times in 1967.

Source: High Times

Willie Nelson - Busted in Texas in 1995 with pot in his car. Charges were dropped later when search was determined to be illegal.

Source: High Times

David Lee Roth - Former Van Halen front man busted in 1993 in New York city after buying a "dime" bag from an informant.

Source: High Times

Louis Armstrong - Legendary trumpeter busted in 1931 outside of an LA jazz club.

Source: High Times

The Grateful Dead - Their infamous house at 710 Ashbury was raided in 1967. Band members Bob Weir and Pigpen were arrested. Amazingly the police didn't find the pot hidden in a kitchen pantry.

Source: High Times

Gene Krupa - Jazz drummer arrested in 1943 in San Francisco after LA narcotic officers followed him. They seized the pot and he spent 84 days in jail.

Source: High Times

Carlos Santana - Legendary Grammy award winning guitar player busted at Houston Airport in 1991 for transporting five grams of marijuana from Mexico.

Source: High Times

Freddy Fender - Tex-Mex pop star busted in Louisiana in 1960 for less than six grams of pot.

Source: High Times

Flavor Flav - Sidekick to Chuck D. in Public Enemy busted in 1996 while riding his bike in the Bronx. New York Police officers noticed a bulge in his jacket and stopped him. They found a kilo sized brick of marijuana on him.

Source: High Times

A.) The Beatles

John Lennon - Famed front man of The Beatles busted for hash in London in 1968. 5 years later almost deported from America because of the charges.

Source: High Times

Paul McCartney - Beatle and long time pro-pot advocate was busted several times throughout the 70's and 80's.

Source: High Times

George Harrison - Beatle arrested in London in 1969 after they raided his home and found 570 "grains" of pot.

Source: High Times

OTHER NOTABLES: Ray Charles 1961, Bunny Wailer 1967, David Bowie & Iggy Pop 1976, Neil Diamond 1976, Notorious BIG 1996, and Queen Latifah 1996.

Source: Wire service, news articles and High Times



Athletes:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - Former Lakers star busted at Pearson International Airport in Toronto Canada with six grams of marijuana by U.S. Customs officials. Paid $500 fine. Jabbar claims to have used marijuana for years to successfully treat severe migraine headaches.

Source: Associated Press Toronto March 20, 1998

Robert Parish - Boston Celtics star arrested in 1991 when police intercepted two ounces of pot being shipped Federal Express to his Massachusetts house. He paid a $37 fine.

Source: High Times

Ferguson Jenkins - Pitcher and Cy Young award winner busted in 1980 for possessing hash.

Source: High Times

Orlando Cepeda - Former San Francisco Giant and MVP award winner in 1967, charged with smuggling 160 pounds of marijuana from Puerto Rico to Miami in 1976.

Source: High Times

Vernon Maxwell - Former Houston Rocket busted in Texas in 1995 after running a red light. Police found a gram of pot in a baggie on the floor of his car.

Source: High Times

Ross Rebagliati - 1998 gold-medalist snow boarder from Canada who almost had his medal taken away when traces of THC were found in his system.

Source: High Times

Isiah Rider - Former Portland Trail Blazer's guard arrested in 1996 when officers observed him in a car attempting to smoke marijuana from a soda can. He was charged with possession of less than one ounce of marijuana.

Source: The Register-Guard, December 10, 1998

Allen Iverson - 76ers franchise player busted in 1997 on marijuana charges.

Source: Wire reports and High Times

Mookie Blaylock - Atlanta Hawks star busted in 1997 when drug sniffing dogs uncovered marijuana on him in a Vancouver Canada airport.

Source: Wire reports

Marcus Camby - New York Knick busted for marijuana in 1997, performed community service and the charges were eventually dropped.

Source: Wire reports

Chris Webber - Sacramento Kings player charged with marijuana possession and assaulting a police officer in 1998. He was pulled over and he resisted the police officer. The vehicle was impounded and traces of marijuana were found inside.

Source: CannabisNews.com

Khalid El-Amin - Point guard for University of Connecticut during their championship season, busted a month after championship game against Duke. During a stop for a traffic violation a small amount of marijuana was found on him.

Source: Middletown Press, April 16, 1999

Todd Marinovich - Former USC and Raiders quarterback arrested for growing one pot plant in his house in 1996.

Source: High Times



Cultural Icons:

Timothy Leary, MD - LSD guru arrested after a small amount of marijuana was planted on him in 1968. He received a 10-year sentence but would escape and be re-captured in Afghanistan. He was in jail until 1976.

Source: High Times

Ken Kesey - Author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and chief Merry Prankster arrested twice for marijuana in 1966. He fled to Mexico, turned himself in, and spent 5 months in jail.



Neal Cassady - Famous 'Beat' and road partner of Jack Kerouac arrested in 1958 after selling two joints to undercover agents.

Source: High Times

John Sinclair - Founder of White Panther Party and manager of rock band MC5 busted after being set up by undercover agents in 1967. He served two years of a ten year sentence for possessing two joints.

Arrests of the Rich and Famous - NORML.org - Working to Reform Marijuana Laws
 
Old 03-24-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
This post is written for the thinking minds- who dare to expand concepts and see a broader paradigm to progress for ALL American People.

Now, many truths are being told decades after some of the people who were leaders have passed on. It's time for America to know these things, in this age and time of so much, truth is the best medicine to face up to the wrongs of the past and build a better future.

Therefore;

The Awakening of America - Exposing The Confounding Twist > Understanding the Dynamics of Collusion's - Race-Drugs and Political Quandary, the severity of the reverberating effects of these wrong way agenda's impact much of society to this very day.



From the time of Nixon, who's administration was instrumental to convert the Southern Democrats over to the Republican party, because the Southern Democrats were unable to contain and squash "Civil Rights Bills" as Southern Democrats, they tried to infiltrate and ultimately they did "dominate" the Republican party and push their agenda and the agenda's system, these efforts have not ceased to purse those objectives.
What resulted was the Northern Democrats and the ideology of support for Civil Rights became a focal point of the Democratic party, once the Southern Democrats moved on to the Republican party and hijacked its system and the systems agenda, to continue to push "divides within society".
There was massive efforts to block, stall, delay and dismantle Civil Rights Movements by any and many means.

Let's look at some variables



The exodus of Industry was another tool utilized by the Nixon Administration, by pushing to export all of the Mineral and Ore processing to China. This would bust up the power of the Steel Workers unions before blacks and women could get in and build a economic viable life of economic equilibrium. They know the loss of jobs and the increase in crime would follow along with drugs. It was in many ways promoted for the sake of containment programming of minorities, as well as dire poor whites would be too a collateral damage, but they had as much disdain for the dire poor whites, but just not as much as was held toward blacks. Certainly, there was no desire to see black people nor dire poor whites gain economic equilibrium.




The madness of a convoluted agenda gone awry.

During the 1980's Reagan Administration, he continued the policies to devastate black and dire poor whites society, first he continued his dismantling of funding for State and Community colleges. By the time of Reagan, he proceeded to flood the black and poor whites with cheap cocaine from Central America, until the saturation of drugs in these communities set them back 100 yrs, while at the same time, pushing a "Just Say No, campaign, to ultimately get the Middle and Upper Class whites un addicted. Soon as the addiction numbers decreased in these Middle and Upper Middle Class, suddenly, the funding and closure of drug rehab and the coverage to support rehab dried up as well.
By then, the highways for drug importations were well established, covertly run, and covertly protected to continue the flow of drugs into the poor black and poor white communities.

Many unexpected consequences evolved, such as meth, pills and re-emerge of the late 1960 Heroin among the mid-western and rural america followed by the pill epidemic.
Along with this process, the exodus of "industry escalated upward and left the country as if they were loaded on a rocket and shipped away.

The class gap was firmly established and in place, this has led to a widening of the economic gap to levels which cannot be bridged or balanced. The cast system is entrenched in ways today which renders America into an Oligarchy, with wealthy holding the Authorization position, while they push for a Plutocratic system and a Monarchical program run by the Wealthy.

The Confounding of Political Atmosphere = A public confused

Today, there are candidates of speak of it, which is Clinton, Sanders and Trump - They all speak about the horrors of the economic imbalances and the destitution American people have been relegated. Sanders and some of the very wealthy along with Rand Paul spoke and continue to speak about the terrible horrors of black male incarceration and the continuing exaggerated publication of materials to promote a anti black mentality. The violence in the black communities is not an anomaly, nor it is without construction. The old history of pitting blacks against blacks simply took on a variety of models. Without jobs, the process of this escalating was part of the original plan. When such chaos reigns, the wealthy become more wealthy and the disruption in black and poor white communities breeds anguish, violence, and the horrors we see in the media each day.

Contrast that with the levels of profits moving in the hands of the wealthy is beyond number the average people can even fathom.

The Establishment of Republican System, continue to push divide mentality in the likes of Ted Cruz, Rubio and the host of others who fell off the campaign block, but now they push by other means.



One aspect of Trump, unliked by the establishment, is he did expose the banking madness, he has exposed the vile in Industrial Outsourcing, and he exposed the vile of agreements that are unfavorable to uplift America in regards to International Trade.
The problem with Trump is: he does not know how to address these things and get the poor whites who have been misled and hoodwinked with racism and taught to blame the racism on blacks, but the true blame for racism is on the Republican Being in support of the Industrial Wealth Mentality of those who still aspire to the Nixon Ideology, and the Reagan system, all of which have too much of the similarities in their core beliefs the same as the 1960's Governor George Wallace.

If Trump knew how to explain to those poor and uneducated and under-educated whites who clamor to his campaign with their racism being a driving undercurrent, he would tell them, that the issue of current condition and de-industrialization in America were meant to promote racism among poor whites, as well as keep a vast distance between the working poor, dire poor whites and conflict in the streets with blames against blacks, the result of such construction, causes Poor Whites and Blacks from becoming economically stable and on a economic upward trajectory. Trump simply does not know how to frame it up to explain it. If this group of whites were told these truth, they'd understand how they were "hoodwinked and betrayed" to be the pawns of the wealthy, to keep havoc in the streets while the wealthy fill their coffers and distance themselves from the masses. They would then too understand they fight against themselves, in their concepts of segregated mentality and misplaced blames and animosities against blacks and others. They would learn, they are not more than considered as members of "The Poor". (THE POOR is made up of POOR WHITES, WORKING POOR WHITES, DIRE POOR WHITES AND BLACKS AND OTHER MINORITIES.) They cannot rise above this without the unity of The Poor, becoming aware of their need to be unified.

This is a message, sadly, Trump does not know how to convey. Sander's has addressed it, but he does so in the America way of softer approach, but the problem with Sanders is he proposes massive system changes which the wealthy know he can't deliver. Hillary, understand these things, and she too would like to change it to make it better for all people, but she is directed in focus to the massive problems of International conflict and the threat of Middle East Instability, while at the same time, she knows that social instability helps the wealthy become more wealthy, thus making it even harder for the average American to get uplift economically. She wants to bridge the gap and bring America together, and uplift "The Poor". She too understand the need for Industry, as well as; she knows, a drastic pull of industry from around the globe, only sets up a conflict scenario for America and will lead to a protectionism war among nations, which is economically devastation, not only to America but Global nations.
Therefore, she does have a good and deep grasp of understanding the multitude of matters and the need for diplomacy, as well as the needs for changes. She is the best positioned and qualified at this time in history and our political quandry, to be and become President.

The Set Up for a Political Paring that Could - Shock Awake the America People- and Unify the mass to make a better America, while maintaining peace in the International Community.

Is:
Here is the wake up shocker, none have focused to consider: before you panic, "Think Deeply and Expansively".
A ticket that might be surprising and not even discussed might just be a Clinton-Trump Presidency, with Trump as the VP in charge of Economic Policy in the structured rebuilding of Americans Industry and economic international trade relations, without being a drastic impact to offset world politics and world economics. That is a very very delicate matter. Trump could effectively do this job, but it would need to be in position of Vice President, not as President. (Trump knows this!!!)
Trump does not know enough about the inter-working of International Policy, to become President, but he could be effective under the Vice President position, because he could be managed in that role, and still push to achieve the economic improvements that are beneficial to America. Trump also knows that Hillary is the best choice for President, but the issue is, he can't campaign to be Vice President, so he pushes the position aim, but is already prepared to hopefully be offered the Vice Presidential position. He has not relinquised the concept of a Third Party Position, but he knows it is not feasible, but the idea of such, indicates that he is positioning himself to be and want to be the Vice Presidential running mate and he wants to be the lead person in the Economic Policy of a Clinton Administration.

(NO ONE has seen this scenario, because people are caught up in the drama) But if one remembers the drama between Clinton and Obama, one then understand how the campaign conflict, is not the reality which comes to exist, because Clinton was immediately tapped for the Secretary of State, in the same opponent President she campaigned against.

This means, the Secretary of State position would become very very important, and Kerry would stay on in that role, to ensure there is logical management on the diplomatic levels as we move forward.

This rules out Sanders and this Rules out Cruz, their ideas are too radical and lead to a massive destabilization both domestic and internationally. The Global system is too turbulent to try and do what they aim to do. Cruz, would be such a domestic disaster and he'd inflame International relation in ways that can't be reversed.

People must listen beyond the drama and see the big picture- We need people in the positions they are best suited to serve and their expertise can best be utilized.

The Awakening of America - To... learn to change its course

The Media made and pushed Trump, by the incessant Air Time they gave him for free, yet, the media was chasing sound bits, unaware of what they were doing, they only wanted ratings, this is how and why Trump was able to push the envelope. The Media is still to this date unaware of how they created the stand out of Trump over the other candidates. The good thing, is the economic exposure Trump pushed of exposing banks, and exposing CEO and their dismantling of American Industry. This is where it becomes beneficial for Trump to help lead in the economic policy, but not to be President to lead the nation as a whole.

Wake Up America!!!!!! Think - Learn and Become Aware.

This is what and how political gridlock is abolished, by a unlikely paring, which at the same times bring parties to a forced position of unity to work together.

This is the Un-heard of Change which may become the remaking of America in a system of Unity Building and destroying the partisan gridlock.

Everyone knows the War of Drugs has not worked, but everyone did not know why it was enacted or how drug saturation grew. But it is known that it has to change.

These things are tied together, in both Current Events as well as Political System. We as people must learn to tie the dots, and know that knots have been tied of abstract components, illogical to us, but logical to the system and the aims of segregating "The Poor" from the wealthy. Be mindful to know, THE POOR is made up of POOR WHITES, WORKING POOR WHITES, DIRE POOR WHITES AND BLACKS AND OTHER MINORITIES.

These points and inter-links discussed is far beyond what the average person has considered to acknowledge, But speak directly to the American situation and its condition.

To Grasp understandings, please read with an unbiased mind, Go read the Speech, at the end of the March on Selma ".

You will begin to understand whom "The Poor" is comprised of and how, The Poor - can unify America and make it economically and socially prosperous.
Looking at the vast expanse- there is many factors at play, of which American people must look at a variety of factors.

Will expound more on these dynamics in coming comment postings.
While this is interesting and some I agree with and some I do not, I thought you'd like to know that in a recent poll of voters they've found that Trump has an equal economic following to all other candidates. Some blue collar, some white collar, and some independent business owners. As hard as it is for anyone to believe, Trump is not making it on the backs of poor white trash any more or less than any other candidate. Thought you'd like to know.
 
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All I know is that resulting from either from apathy, laziness or bad personal choices, most people that use marijuana four or more times a week end up working in the lower end of the pay scale. To me, it shows that marijuana is far from harmless and hardly the wonder drug millennials are desperately trying to pimp it up to be.

That being said, I do believe it should be decriminalized. Stoners have a hard enough time landing a good job without the stigma of a criminal record impeding their attempts to do so.
You haven't polled tech workers. Plenty use recreational drugs pretty frequently.
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