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Old 03-29-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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And yet I didn't see where you were defending them or claiming "Well, they have their issues like anybody else".

In fact you just said in an earlier post that you would trade 10 Muslims for 1 of them.

See the irony or contradiction yet?
Southern conservative is not a religion. I was addressing someone stereotyping an entire religion... I also didn't say the sky was blue and by golly it's blue...
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Keith Ellision is an African American congressman and Farooq Syed is not. I'm not sure where you're going with this one...
Suppose you are in charge of determining whether or not a muslim refugee should be granted asylum.

How would you know that the person in question is a morally upright Keith Ellision or a ISIS inspired Syed Farooq (who wants to kill Kufars and gain matyrdom)?
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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Southern conservative is not a religion. I was addressing someone stereotyping an entire religion... I also didn't say the sky was blue and by golly it's blue...
So stereotyping an entire religion = bad
but stereotyping all southern conservatives = OK

Is that right?
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Suppose you are in charge of determining whether or not a muslim refugee should be granted asylum.

How would you know that the person in question is a morally upright Keith Ellision or a ISIS inspired Syed Farooq (who wants to kill Kufars and gain matyrdom)?
I would limit granting asylum to people that pass a polygraph.
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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So stereotyping an entire religion = bad
but stereotyping all southern conservatives = OK

Is that right?
I wouldn't say it's right but it is something I'm sometimes guilty of...
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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I would limit granting asylum to people that pass a polygraph.
You do know that polygraph tests are not entirely reliable, yea?

Just for the sake of conversation, lets suppose that they are.
How do you know that a moderate muslim will not get radicalized?
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Anyone else think that this world would be a better place if everyone stayed/went back to where they originated from?
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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Students of history don't have to imagine "southern conservatives" committing violence. All you need to do is pick up a book..

The things you read on the internet...
I could see why "southern conservatives" didn't like blacks. If you hadn't noticed many of them hate upper class whites too. Time well spent on the history of the Caribbean allowed me to understand this strange and even somewhat obscene phenomenon.

Poor whites were more or less the descendants of freemen and indentured servitude. Early colonial history was more or less a repeat of Roman history. Slavery was the bane of freedmen. As slaves were utilized and trained, poor white freemen had trouble competing. They hated slavery for this reason. It was the some 5% plantation owners that imported most of the slaves. What a cruel irony it is that the white financial elites have also successfully made them the scape for a legacy of slavery..... Most of those white people not only had nothing to do with it, it was their main competition.

So I can sort of see why the black has been to them a constant curse....

Even today there is enormous amount of harmony between white upper class and poor blacks, Hillary being a prime example. Also notice the obvious hatred between poor and wealthy whites.

We see the exact replay today. Cheap Mexican labor isn't the idea of poor whites anymore than slavery was. It isn't the idea of the descendants of slaves either...who are now in the same position as poor whites.

So you might want to think about that and perhaps remind those whites that blacks were just a proxy of the problem we have today. Also might want to remind blacks who continue to follow the main class that exploited them. Both are being manipulated masterfully.
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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Anyone else think that this world would be a better place if everyone stayed/went back to where they originated from?
just those of us from parts of the world that aren't violent cesspools.
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Old 03-29-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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You do know that polygraph tests are not entirely reliable, yea?

Just for the sake of conversation, lets suppose that they are.
How do you know that a moderate muslim will not get radicalized?
I've taken a polygraph when I did a study for the NSA at Fort Gordon. So yes, I know they're not 100%.

As for knowing someone will not eventually get radicalized, you can't. There's a certain amount of chance involved...
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