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Not a republican supporter, but I really don't get this argument. It sounds so weird. A regular procedure for every citizen in every country on the globe, is "very difficult" for certain US citizens. Now let's consider:
1) When the poor citizens need an ID to collect food stamps or unemployment, aren't they getting it?
2) When they need drivers license, don't they find ways (in spite of the great difficulty) to get an ID?
3) when they register newly born babies as US citizens, how do they manage?
Why won't the Democratic Party or anyone helping the poor, find ways to make the registration easy? For example opening offices in mid town, or at shopping centers? With billions in elections donations, can't they spare a few millions for the ONE TIME procedure? Or passing laws (at the city hall) to make registration for voting free?
For some reason democrats are convicted that the problem is only with minorities and these minorities would vote for them. But I had the opportunity to meet poor white people, rednecks, who are not voting as well. They are totally ignorant and have no interest in the democratic process. They don't know what the issues are, who are the candidates and how is all that affecting them.
My answer is: if you are disconnected from society ignorant and don't care about anything, better not vote.
Agreed.
When I hear about people griping about HAVING to show ID to vote; I DON'T care. I'm a "white" male and even I have to show ID. If it's good enough for me, it's def good enough for every other US citizen. Period.
Local news filmed the lines at various Wisconsin DMVs with long, long lines of people waiting to get a state- issued ID. I was surprised by the number of middle- aged people in these lines.
How have so many managed to live for 35-45-50 years without an ID that is required for employment, a doctor's visit, cash a check, open a bank account, drive, travel, lease a residence or buy a home?
How does a person get his or her banking done without a photo ID? Get into municipal buildings? You can't even buy alcohol or tobacco at a lot of places any more without a photo ID. You can't get a job without photo ID.
You can't lease an apartment, etc., without a photo ID, either. Are these people living under a rock somewhere? Or what?
When I hear about people griping about HAVING to show ID to vote; I DON'T care. I'm a "white" male and even I have to show ID. If it's good enough for me, it's def good enough for every other US citizen. Period.
The point is that everyone agrees that one needs ID for many things and it is so in every county. The only place some folks disagree about ID necessity, is voting in US.
In another thread Bernie Sanders is quoted as aspiring to introduce the Scandinavian model in US. Yet even in Scandinavia, you need ID to vote.
You'd have a point, if not for the simple fact that these laws are created in places where Republicans are in power. So no, Democrats can't "find ways to make the registration easy." No, Democrats can't open offices in shopping centers.
Republicans are going out of their way to make voting as difficult as possible in an effort to disenfranchise young people, minorities, etc. Until those Republicans are voted out of office (which they make more difficult by rigging the system) or someone drags it through the courts, nothing is going to get fixed.
It's not only with people who are likely to vote D, but Republicans are willing to sacrifice some R votes. As long as they snuff out more D votes, it's still a net win for them.
I am aware that ID request is a republican tactic against democrats. All I say is that instead of fighting those governors by using childish arguments, take responsibility and initiate a reform in ID laws. That puts the ball back in the republican court and perhaps lead to a pragmatic solution.
You surely can. Just live a completely cash based life like the 50 million illegals.
No, you can't. Those illegals get "help" in renting an apartment, house, etc., from a friend, family member, etc., who HAS an ID ...and then they flood the rental with too many people.
I am aware that ID request is a republican tactic against democrats. All I say is that instead of fighting those governors by using childish arguments, take responsibility and initiate a reform in ID laws. That puts the ball back in the republican court and perhaps lead to a pragmatic solution.
That sounds like a lot of real work that could lead to real solutions. Why would anybody want that?
This is how Republican Governors are planning to win elections for their party, as they know the numbers are against them. Factor in youthful voters who are adamantly opposed to rich old white guys telling them what to believe in, or what women can do with their uterus, and you can see the demographics are shifting.
It's not as easy for the poor, especially those who don't drive, to get a photo I.D. if the deck is stacked against them. For many who live in poverty, they are losing the right to vote.
They can sure as hell find a way to get to the food stamp, cash assistance and section 8 housing offices to fill out all that paperwork. Time to quit playing the victim and start thinking for yourself.
It's not about repressing the vote, it's about repressing the re-vote.
This whole notion is another democrat dog whistle. Mention "voter ID" and it's immediately taken as an attack on poor minorities, no matter the reason it has to be instated is to retain the integrity of the voting process.
But I have a possible solution. If you don't have an ID you can dip your thumb into some indelible purple ink or such like that? That will keep the revote down and allow the unicorns without any form of ID to vote freely. Now everybody is happy, right?
And, oh yeah, the illegals who get by without ID in a cashless society don't count in this discussion, because, um, they aren't allowed to vote. Yet.
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into some indelible purple ink or such like that? That will keep the revote down and allow the unicorns without any form of ID to vote freely. Now everybody is happy, right?
