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Old 04-12-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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If they still have the va jay-jay they need to be a using the ladies room.
It's very simple.
Although a little creepy if they walk in with a beard, no boobs, and then sit down to pee, but whatever.
How do you poop? I for one sit down to do that. Also, who is going to inspect people to make sure their genitalia matches the bathroom they are going to?

 
Old 04-12-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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2000+ grade 9-12 students, all required to take 4 years of P.E. You do the math.

All right. I don't recall this being an issue but if you say so.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 12:54 PM
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Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Like what?
It basically says that non-discrimination ordinances of any type (racial, veteran's status, sex, etc.) must go no further than the state's law on those topics. It's being labeled as anti-gay because the state has no anti-discrimination statute for gay people as a protected class, so it prevents cities from doing so if they would like (not commenting on whether those statutes are good, just that it's the reason for much of the anti-gay allegations). I think that applies to veteran's status as well.

It also has ramifications for lawsuits; if you have a racial discrimination claim under state law, for example, you can no longer bring it in state court. It has to go to the state administrative agency for adjudication, or to federal court.

Finally, it prevents cities from establishing minimum wages in excess of the state minimum wage.

There might be more, but those are the big changes that I'm aware of.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 12:57 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I was in 4 years of PE and never had to remove my underwear. Take off jeans, put on shorts.
You didn't have P.E. uniforms? Or even a P.E. dress code requirement? Didn't have required swim class, for which you HAVE to change into and out of a swimsuit?

Many schools have such, and that's why NC's law and others like it are necessary.

Hell, even male college students complained about Seamus Johnston using their facilities. Johnston was expelled for repeated violations. Federal court in 2015 upheld the expulsion, stating Johnston had no valid claim of discrimination.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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And that goes for all the businesses that are having knee-jerk reactions.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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As some have noted, it may be that the law has to be tweaked and clarified, but it was never intended to be anti-discriminatory and if the greater gay/lesbian community weren't so sensitive that they allow themselves to become obsessed with this, they would have read it with objectivity and understood that it does not intend discrimination against them.

Nothing really has changed, except for the added protection of the rest of society that we have a duty to protect.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It's being labeled as anti-gay because the state has no anti-discrimination statute for gay people as a protected class, so it prevents cities from doing so if they would like (not commenting on whether those statutes are good, just that it's the reason for much of the anti-gay allegations).
Bet you didn't know that even the Federal Government doesn't list sexual orientation as a protected class*. Might have been something Obama and the Dems should have focused on in 2009-2011 when they had the Presidency, House, and Senate instead of cramming Obamacare that most hate down Americans' throats.

*That's why a federal judge ruled against Seamus Johnston in 2015. No basis for the discrimination claim.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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You didn't have P.E. uniforms? Or even a P.E. dress code requirement? Didn't have required swim class, for which you HAVE to change into and out of a swimsuit?
Yes red shorts and a school tee. You take off your jeans and put on the shorts, take off your shirt and put on the tee. No need to take off your underwear or bra. No nudity required.
We had no swim class, because there was no pool. Many public schools do not have a pool thus no swim class. No swim class no need to put on a swim suit. No nudity required.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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So lets give the GOP the rope to hang itself yet again.

Yeah!

Lets make sure the platform committee spends days debating the exact wording.

Lets be sure the GOP delegates are banned from using all toilets at the convention center unless they bring their birth certificates.

...
And if they do get to carry guns into the convention -- as their petition demands -- it could get really interesting in the bathrooms!
 
Old 04-12-2016, 01:37 PM
 
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As some have noted, it may be that the law has to be tweaked and clarified, but it was never intended to be anti-discriminatory and if the greater gay/lesbian community weren't so sensitive that they allow themselves to become obsessed with this, they would have read it with objectivity and understood that it does not intend discrimination against them.

Nothing really has changed, except for the added protection of the rest of society that we have a duty to protect.
It REMOVED discrimination protections for LGBT people in employment and public accommodations that were at the city level. THAT has changed.
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