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Old 04-09-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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Perhaps ironically, I agree with the part where you "don't even need a holy book passage to claim a religious belief, nor a church statement, nor another living soul that believes the way you do."

The part I don't agree with is using one's religious belief to discriminate against other folks.
I don't think that any religious belief should be able to trump generally applicable laws.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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Jesus ate with prostitues and criminals, but Christians want laws allowing them to discriminate against gays. great job in doing the opposite of what your God would have done.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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I don't think that any religious belief should be able to trump generally applicable laws.
Agree.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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Per my state laws it only has to be a sincerely held religious belief, whether or not the exercise is compulsory or central to a larger system of religious belief.

As long as I say it is a sincerely held belief, then it is. Or do you want the government to decide what a sincerely held belief is?
Try it, then. Let us know how it works out for you.

We already know how it worked out for Hobby Lobby.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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You are talking about what men wrote. Where is gods written word...nowhere. And this is the problem
The same could be said about this doctrine written by atheist which has no consistency at all. Do we come from monkeys, a Big Bang or monkeys mating with fish which is it? If we evolve from apes how is it that some apes missed out on this opportunity. Did they opted out on this and decided to stay in the jungle? And why are we not evolving now. By now we should have wings or something or did Evolution have a cut off. Maybe my faith in God must have blinded me. I will visit the zoo today and gain wisdom from the apes there have to be an answer in the poop they fling at each other.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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Jesus ate with prostitues and criminals, but Christians want laws allowing them to discriminate against gays. great job in doing the opposite of what your God would have done.
Agree, it's disheartening. Sometimes I really feel sorry for the Gods.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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let the jokes begin

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Old 04-09-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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Try it, then. Let us know how it works out for you.

We already know how it worked out for Hobby Lobby.
You were the one that was claiming that the religious belief had to be an "official" position of a religion.

Care to change that opinion now?
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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I don't think that any religious belief should be able to trump generally applicable laws.
What a shame for you that the First Amendment explicitly disagrees with that premise. And why are you appealing to Authoritarianism? That's not freedom in any way, shape, or form.
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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You were the one that was claiming that the religious belief had to be an "official" position of a religion.

Care to change that opinion now?
All that matters is what SCOTUS ultimately decides. no? They ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby's religious objection.
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