Mississippi governor signs law allowing businesses to refuse service to gay people (Amish, dollar)
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Seems SCOTUS disagrees with you. You yourself have cited the Piggie Park case numerous times.
Perhaps you should study why Piggie Park lost their case but Hobby Lobby won theirs.
PP lost because religious belief does not exempt anyone from following generally applicable laws.
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Neither is the court impressed by defendant Bessinger's contention that the judicial enforcement of the public accommodations provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 upon which this suit is predicated violates the free exercise of his religious beliefs in contravention of the First Amendment to the Constitution. It is unquestioned that the First Amendment prohibits compulsion by law of any creed or the practice of any form of religion, but it also safeguards the free exercise of one's chosen religion.
The free exercise of one's beliefs, however, as distinguished from the absolute right to a belief, is subject to regulation when religious acts require accommodation to society.
But they are refusing to serve them items that they offer to others. It would be like a restaurant having steak and hamburgers on their menu, and saying that the black guy can not order the steak. He can still have the hamburger though. The bakery OFFERS wedding cakes like PP OFFERED inside seating. They can not discriminate in services that they OFFER.
If you read public accommodation law it states that a business must sell any item they offer and can not discriminate based on race, sex, religion, age, and in some state sexual orientation. So if you OFFER wedding cakes, you have to sell them to anyone that wants one.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Just like Hobby Lobby doesn't provide insurance coverage for abortifacients, an act SCOTUS upheld.
Care to respond to the ENTIRE post?
They do not OFFER that coverage to ANYONE. They do not OFFER it to one but not the other.
Exactly how does one propose to find out what someone's sexual orientation is? Hell, according to lots of bible thumpers you can just "pray away the gay." I suppose that means that you can be gay one second and straight the next. Using that "logic" even if you knew what someone's sexual orientation was at one point in time it would not mean they were currently that way anyhow. It's all so dumb. So much for the South rising again.
FYI - civil rights (aka "civil liberties" ) are government granted privileges, like licenses. (Remember? All the altercations were with LICENSED businesses, who were exercising civil liberties... permissions from the government. There is no "right" to discriminate when one has no rights.)
Has no congruence with natural liberty nor personal liberty.
then one should lose their license but not get sued for 500k because they hurt their feeling
How so? I'm specifically referring to a very recent religious proclamation and how members of that religion vote. Much to your chagrin, I'm sure, although it's close... they're mostly Dem voters.
Because you mention the written document, not what the Pope also related about the treatment of gay people. You do not provide balanced information.
No, I'm asking which religion states that the social mixing of races is prohibited, like Pope Francis reaffirmed the Roman Catholic religion's position that gay marriage is illegitimate in his publication released yesterday.
Once again -- as you do so often -- you didn't answer the question.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
I'm sure I've read it just as many times as you have.
Perhaps you can tell me which verse of the Bible says not to bake cakes for gay people.
You cannot just say anything is your religion. You cannot say, for example, that you have founded a religion that is against paying income tax, and therefore not pay income tax.
In the case of enacting and enforcing law that violates Constitutional Rights, it is. Hence, the Hobby Lobby ruling.
To paraphrase Hubert Humphrey, it's time for you to get out of the shadow of written rules, and get out into the sunshine of thinking about moral issues in how people -- all people -- should be treated.
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