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Simple. Tax structure would simply need to be more regressive. Just eliminate the 47%, refundable child tax credits, EIC, and get people paying a UK style tax rate and you can have UK care.
But the democrats will never let that happen - taxes are only for rich republicans.
We will have a national health care system one day.
I would argue it is inevitable. It is popular among the younger generations.
Hopefully it is more like France's, which has aspects of competition among hospitals and doctors, and is rated the best in the world.
I would argue a national health care system would enhance capitalism, as it would enable smaller businesses to compete more readily with bigger companies when offering employees compensation packages as healthcare is taken out of the equation.
First we will have to close about 8 out of every 10 hospitals, next sell or scrap 90% of all our high tech diagnostic equipment, Layoff tens of thousands of Dr. and Nurses, then somehow convince the American people that scheduling Dr. visits, MRI's, X-rays, etc. out 18 to 24 months is only fair.
What, you don't want to limp around in pain for years, Can't do your job and gonna lose your home waiting for your scheduled MRI and day surgery, well you can do what many Canadians do, fly down here to the states and pay for private surgery out of pocket. Long Canadian wait times send patients south for surgery | Video
Your not going to have the same level of care, not even remotely close.
You are one of the posters here who understands this. I understand it. Politicians don't seem to understand it. The democrats want a liberal utopia without the oppressive tax structure needed to support such a system. It's mathematically not possible.
If Hillary promised UHC along with a new 10% payroll tax they would chase her back to Arkansas in one day.
You are one of the posters here who understands this. I understand it. Politicians don't seem to understand it. The democrats want a liberal utopia without the oppressive tax structure needed to support such a system. It's mathematically not possible.
If Hillary promised UHC along with a new 10% payroll tax they would chase her back to Arkansas in one day.
Of course it is always possible in a monetarily sovereign nation with the appropriate resources. Now whether it incites too much inflation is another matter. But if we the people decide to make it so, it is possible, because the mathematics are not constrained by taxes. We are constrained by resources, not money.
Plus, we have already seen how good (tongue in cheek) Uncle Sam is with handling health care with the disastrous O Care and the V.A.
"If you don't learn from history, you will repeat it".
Government health care is bad? We should end Medicare then.
We will likely have universal health coverage eventually once certain generations have passed. Or we could stop funding the gap that we currently pay to supplement the excessive Medicare benefits we pay out (seniors only contribute about 13%-41% over the medical coverage, you and I pay the rest). If we told seniors they've spent their allowance they need to go buy coverage, (buy popcorn!) attitudes would change quickly.
I know we have Obama-care and not at all very likely to ever happen, but hypothetically speaking, if every U.S politician decided they wanted a healthcare system just like in the U.K or other European countries practically identical for every U.S citizen what would it take, and how much would our politicians have to sacrifice to get it?
Steps would need to be taken to seriously decrease the cost of healthcare. Europe doesn't pay $15 per pill of Tylenol, $8 for a "mucus recovery system" (box of Kleenex), or $23 per single alcohol swab. http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/wi...ospital-costs/
The problem with Obamacare was never the fact that they tried to do socialized medicine or copy Canada and the EU. The big problem was that nobody did anything to reduce out of control price gouging already built into the system before trying to do socialized medicine.
EU public healthcare is not without its many flaws, but the cost of coverage here in the USA has simply gotten to be too much to handle. It's gotta get fixed one way or another. More and more, nobody can actually afford to use our current healthcare system.
I know we have Obama-care and not at all very likely to ever happen, but hypothetically speaking, if every U.S politician decided they wanted a healthcare system just like in the U.K or other European countries practically identical for every U.S citizen what would it take, and how much would our politicians have to sacrifice to get it?
Nearly 60 countries have Universal Healthcare. Many, but certainly not all, are located in Europe. Not a single country with Universal Healthcare does Universal Healthcare the same. For this reason there is no such thing as
A European healthcare system.
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