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Old 04-07-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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And this person doing this to themselves affects you... how?

Trying to fly off the top of a building is highly likely to cause death. Getting optional cosmetic surgery is not likely to cause death. Not even close to the same thing.

It's their life. Let them live it the way they want to.

And I notice the link in the OP was to some Christian fundie woo site.
But we don't much like them kinds in our neck of the woods...

 
Old 04-07-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Is there a rule somewhere that something has to directly affect me before I am allowed to express an opinion on it?
You are the one wanting an "intervention" and counseling for someone that is not hurting anyone. What If there is something that you do that others think is odd? Should they have an intervention and commit you?

How about letting them do as they please, and you do as you please?
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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It matters in the sense that this person is clearly mentally ill to "identify" as a dragon enough to seriously mutilate their body to appear as some hideous facsimile of one.

It matters in the sense that we live in a society that enables, encourages and apologizes for such behavior instead of say... an intervention or getting them some counseling or help.

It matters that you can apparently go somewhere to get your ears and nose surgically removed for aesthetic purposes and there are people who take money and do this sort of thing.

I mean.. if some crazy person said they "identify" as Superman and attempted to fly off the top of a building. Most people would stop them, right? But someone says they identify as a dragon or a cat and can go get surgically mutilated to try and appear that way?

Our society is sick.
I won't pretend to know why this person did what they did. Maybe it's mental illness, maybe it's a bit more complicated that that.

The fact is, mentally ill or not, they are their own person and can make those choices. You don't have to agree with them, you can even express an opinion, but at the end of the day, you don't get to have a problem with that person for any justifiable reason. And I'm not accusing you specifically of that. If anything, it's more directed at people who think like the OP's link expresses, which is a Christian fundamentalist site talking about Christian values, despite having no real relevance to this topic.

As for your Superman analogy, the key difference is that jumping off a building will kill them. Plastic surgery will not.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:12 PM
 
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Degeneracy taken to new heights.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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You are the one wanting an "intervention" and counseling for someone that is not hurting anyone. What If there is something that you do that others think is odd? Should they have an intervention and commit you?
"odd"? This goes waaay beyond odd
I'd say if I willingly had my ears and nose sliced off and thought I was literally a dragon.. I would someone would intervene instead of encourage it.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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Does this matter?

Rather you think what it is doing is right, or whatever is irrelevant. Does it matter? Is there any reason for anyone here to really care about this? I'll care when it comes to this person being harassed or bullied or whatever. No one, regardless of your opinion of them, should be harassed or assaulted. But is there really anything to say besides that?
Of course it doesn't matter. But the people who have nothing to do need SOMETHING to cry about. It fills their meaningless lives.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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"odd"? This goes waaay beyond odd
I'd say if I willingly had my ears and nose sliced off and thought I was literally a dragon.. I would someone would intervene instead of encourage it.
Again, body modification has been going on for thousands of years in every culture. Some are minor, some are major.

Look at corseting, women used to wear them so tight that their internal organs would shift. Foot binding would create a 4 inch foot. Neck stretching to the point that the neck can no longer support the head without the rings. Lips stretched with disks the size of dinner plates.

This is not something new.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Again, body modification has been going on for thousands of years in every culture. Some are minor, some are major.

Look at corseting, women used to wear them so tight that their internal organs would shift. Foot binding would create a 4 inch foot. Neck stretching to the point that the neck can no longer support the head without the rings. Lips stretched with disks the size of dinner plates.

This is not something new.
did you know watch capt Jack Sparrow?
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Does this matter?

Rather you think what it is doing is right, or whatever is irrelevant. Does it matter? Is there any reason for anyone here to really care about this? I'll care when it comes to this person being harassed or bullied or whatever. No one, regardless of your opinion of them, should be harassed or assaulted. But is there really anything to say besides that?
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I won't pretend to know why this person did what they did. Maybe it's mental illness, maybe it's a bit more complicated that that.

The fact is, mentally ill or not, they are their own person and can make those choices.
And you'll get to fund them through your tax dollars.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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And this is important, why?
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