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Old 04-10-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"It was unconstitutional for HOA requirements, not laws at the moment"

WOW, Do some of you read ANYTHING before posting and making complete fools of yourselves?

This NOT a HOA incedent.

The TOWN ordinance IS the LAW!
That was what I was explaining. Some people think it is the same as the HOA issue in the Khan case that was brought up to defend the guy.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by HarryWho? View Post
I lived in NJ for 55 years a lot of them in a shore town. Trust me it wouldn't matter who's sign or flag it was. You learn to live with the ordinances in your town or you move.
PS. I now live in a small town in Florida that really doesn't bother with anyone much. It's a rather conservative area. There's a guy who still has a Romney/Ryan sign in his front yard.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Don't get me wrong, I agree. The law is absurd. My point was inconsistency in value.
I understood your point. You're saying that rule-of-law Conservatives are being inconsistent, because this ordinance is the law, like it or not, and Conservatives, who are ordinarily all about law and order, are defending this guy for breaking it, which is inconsistent in your view.

My point is that it's not inconsistent at all, because the First Amendment, which is the supreme law of the land, precludes this town from passing these types of ordinances in the first place. If there were no 1st Amendment, then I'd say you have a point.
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I will say my point on drug policy still stands.
Not really... Allow me to elaborate. You may be of the personal opinion that the current sentences for drug offenses are draconian, but I think you'd have a hard time making the argument that they're unconstitutional. They may be stupid, I may even be inclined to agree with you in some instances, but they aren't unconstitutional. Also, unlike the right to speak freely and express yourself, there is no explicit right to use or posses drugs outlined in the Constitution, so there's really no valid comparison.
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It is inconsistent to believe in small and non-intrusive governmetn while simultaneously wasting millions of dollars on a war on drugs that hasn't even brought very good results.
In a general sense, I agree.

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Old 04-11-2016, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It was unconstitutional for HOA requirements, not laws at the moment.
I don't get that. HOA's are private entities aren't they? So they aren't necessarily bound by the Constitution. City government's on the other hand, are.
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It would take too much capital to challenge it considering the fine is oh no more than $250.
If you only measure the value of challenging the law in monetary ( $$$ ) terms, then yeah, you're probably right, but I think its about a lot more than just money.

And it doesn't sound like this guy has a problem spending money in terms of standing up for his rights. The guy is leaving the flags up, which would suggest more fines are forthcoming, and it sounds like he's got a stockpile of them to replace the ones that get stolen or vandalized, which can't be all that inexpensive. Say what? $7 bucks a pop conservatively?

( what a shame his support for a buffoon like Trump is the medium through which he sends his righteous message )
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Old 05-04-2016, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Default Is This Freedom? Fly a Trump Flag -Go to Jail

A NJ man may go to jail for flying his Trump Flag. What is happening to Freedom of Speech? The democrats are trying to silence those opposed to their views.

New Jersey Homeowner May Face Jail for Flying Trump Flag | Truth Revolt
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Sorry, sweetpea, but it's not a free speech issue. The guy lives in a place where the ordinance says no political signage more than 30 days before the election. It applies to everyone, not just stupid Trumplets. The guy refuses to comply with the ordinance, so he's racking up fines and facing jail time.

If you wish to defy the law, then you take your punishment.
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:07 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Sorry, sweetpea, but it's not a free speech issue. The guy lives in a place where the ordinance says no political signage more than 30 days before the election. It applies to everyone, not just stupid Trumplets. The guy refuses to comply with the ordinance, so he's racking up fines and facing jail time.

If you wish to defy the law, then you take your punishment.
Just like those illegal a*holes that went to jail in Cali - you know the ones flying Mexican flags sweetpea ?
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Originally Posted by Linda_d View Post
Sorry, sweetpea, but it's not a free speech issue. The guy lives in a place where the ordinance says no political signage more than 30 days before the election. It applies to everyone, not just stupid Trumplets. The guy refuses to comply with the ordinance, so he's racking up fines and facing jail time.

If you wish to defy the law, then you take your punishment.
Laws don't apply to Trump or his supporters.
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Just like those illegal a*holes that went to jail in Cali - you know the ones flying Mexican flags sweetpea ?
How do you know they were "illegal a*holes", sweetpea? Did you demand to see their green cards?
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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Ah, just as nutty as I expected this gentleman to be. Hopefully, he is not representative of other Trump supporters.

It's a "content neutral" regulation that applies to all political signs . . . . . What, laws don't apply to Trump supporters now?

One should always read beyond the headline in a dubious right wing blog, and think for him or herself based on that information.

Mick
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