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Old 04-22-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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Why would they even think of food stamps? Socialists the world over live in multi-generational housing conditions, with their parents, their siblings, their kids. So why don't America's socialists walk the talk?

In her NY Times best selling book 'Mastering the Art of Soviet Cooking,' Anya Von Bremzen describes sharing a kitchen with 18 other families in her apartment block.

Why are lower wage earners trying to live like aristocracy? Or even attempting to live in Berkeley instead of East Oakland?
I was just saying rent is very high. So 15/hr isn't much. Sharing a room in an apartment isn't aristocracy. Berkeley isn't that nice. And the near by ghetto isn't that much cheaper.

I don't think raising min is the answer. I think wages should be higher by limiting the supply of low skilled workers. And I think it should be easier for developers to add new housing units. But that's a whole other issue.
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Old 04-22-2016, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Say who, you?




What is quickly debunked, if you can debunk it, then lets see it. Can you?

Oh, and you may need to check you spelling of a word in your post....you know edumacation (<<<and NO that is not the word I'm talking about)!
Berkeley spelled out quite clearly why they cut 500 jobs, and it had nothing to do with the $15/hr minimum wage (which is nowhere near that amount yet anyway).

Classic attempt by a conservative rag to create a correlation where none exists. It's their speciality.

The misspelling of "education" was sarcastic and intentional: Urban Dictionary: edumacation
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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The cut has nothing to do with the minimum wage. The cut is due to:

"Campus officials have blamed the deficit largely on state allocations that have not kept pace with campus needs."

Anyone who reads the news in CA knows that alot of CA colleges have been facing deficits due to cuts in the education budget.

Of course this trash news article is just a pathetic attempt at sensitization.

There were 200 layoffs at a college in Illinois and 68 layoffs at a college in Kentucky recently...both states with **** poor min. wage laws
So you are asking for the California tax payers to further subsidize these kids going to Barkley, in part so they can pay illegals $15/hr to mop floors?
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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I was just saying rent is very high. So 15/hr isn't much. Sharing a room in an apartment isn't aristocracy. Berkeley isn't that nice. And the near by ghetto isn't that much cheaper.

I don't think raising min is the answer. I think wages should be higher by limiting the supply of low skilled workers. And I think it should be easier for developers to add new housing units. But that's a whole other issue.

Agree. NYC and Cali raising minimum wages while encouraging millions of uneducated, unskilled illegals to flood their labor market is one of the most fundamental economic contradictions I can think of.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:06 PM
 
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Yeah, who needs edumacation! Certainly not conservatives.

Good job defelecting from the OP's bogus and quickly debunked article posted article btw. Well done.
Nothing was debunked.

Liberal lunacy backfiring.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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Agree. NYC and Cali raising minimum wages while encouraging millions of uneducated, unskilled illegals to flood their labor market is one of the most fundamental economic contradictions I can think of.
I know what you are saying. But it could be very strategic for those who want to encourage illegal immigration. It would be much more attractive to hire an illegal alien and pay cash than to hire a citizen or legal immigrant. The black labor market will grow.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:17 PM
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I know what you are saying. But it could be very strategic for those who want to encourage illegal immigration. It would be much more attractive to hire an illegal alien and pay cash than to hire a citizen or legal immigrant. The black labor market will grow.
The progressive left is encouraging the illegal immigration that is putting it out of work.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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Unless all who were laid off were minimum wage workers, the article is meaningless. Not everyone who works at Berkeley are minimum wage workers. With that said, I think the $15 minimum is absurd.

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Why?

1 employee's job is not in a vacuum separated from another employee's job at the same employer.


Hypothetical situation:

If my employer raised my wages dramatically times 10 at the same time that revenue was flat lining...do you think my employer will be more, the same, or less likely to be able to give other employees raises/keep them employed?


That is a large school. Many service type employees just got a raise at the same time they are complaining about their revenue being a struggle...how could it not have some impact on their ability to retain everyone/give everyone raises, etc...
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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Berkeley spelled out quite clearly why they cut 500 jobs, and it had nothing to do with the $15/hr minimum wage (which is nowhere near that amount yet anyway).

In the link provided?

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Classic attempt by a conservative rag to create a correlation where none exists. It's their speciality.
Classic attempt at not answering, well anything.

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The misspelling of "education" was sarcastic and intentional: Urban Dictionary: edumacation
LOL....I know and so does everyone else that you misspelled education (edumaction) ......

What NOT surprising is that you have no clue what other word you misspelled, and then complain about it.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Why?

1 employee's job is not in a vacuum separated from another employee's job at the same employer.


Hypothetical situation:

If my employer raised my wages dramatically times 10 at the same time that revenue was flat lining...do you think my employer will be more, the same, or less likely to be able to give other employees raises/keep them employed?


That is a large school. Many service type employees just got a raise at the same time they are complaining about their revenue being a struggle...how could it not have some impact on their ability to retain everyone/give everyone raises, etc...
You are right and that was my point. And everybody should understand it. When labor costs increase, decreases elsewhere will be necessary to balance it.

The news article doesn't add anything to the thread (for me, hence my statement). If it specifically identified the individuals who were laid off as being minimum wage workers, then it would be meaningful (to me) because then it would have shown the direct connection between cause and effect.

[and the irony]
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