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Old 04-23-2016, 05:13 PM
 
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They need to get off the whole abstinencemiss the only way to go route. That just is not realistic today. They stop listening when they hear that stuff.
lol, yes they do. however you have people who think teaching tem anything else but abstinence is giving them permission.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: FL
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They need to get off the whole abstinencemiss the only way to go route. That just is not realistic today. They stop listening when they hear that stuff.
Yes. That would help a great deal.

Many years ago when I first started working a girl started saying that she couldn't take birth control because it was against her religion. I had to remind her that having sex before marriage was also. Funny, how people pick and choose what they want to believe.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Everyone knows that some pregnancies result from people making poor choices. What about it? Do you think that we should punish a woman who made a bad choice in getting pregnant by forcing her to give birth knowing there's a good chance that her lack of judgment and reasoning is probably an indication of what kind of mother she will be. What the heck is that all about, tough love on steroids?
Ending a life due to "bad choices" is called manslaughter.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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Ending a life due to "bad choices" is called manslaughter.
not in this case.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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bald eagle eggs and a woman pregnancy can not be compared.
Yes, actually, you can. Life is life.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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"I" am not the one to decide. It is a discussion, but thank you for bringing that info to the table. I had no idea it is that early on. Wow! Personally, it would disturb me greatly to know I was involved in any way, shape or form with causing pain. 8 weeks you say? Wow!
I understand what you are saying, I've never had an abortion but I've never been in a position where I had to make a decision about it. I had two planned pregnancies and two beautiful healthy children. But I can't say what I would have done if I had found out while pregnant that one of my children had a horrible disease or condition what would have left them with a life of suffering unless I terminated the pregnancy. And I'm not sure what I would have done if I was broke and without a support system and found myself pregnant, abortion might be an awful option but if the only other choice is trying to raise a child when you can't afford to feed yourself, then under those conditions I might have opted for an abortion.

I don't pretend to have walked in the shoes of a woman who has had to make a decision about whether or not to have an abortion so I won't pass judgment on them and I won't support legislation that tries to restrict their rights. I think most women do the right thing for themselves and their children.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:36 PM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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I wish we had sex ed for young men. for far too many generations now the men figure a woman should/will take care of it. these young boys should be responsible for the control of their own sexual encounters. some kids are proud to be parents, we need to dispel this idea in favor of school and growing up themselves.
I wish both would take care of it as if the other was not and as if they would have to be responsible for the consequences. Unfortunately, it's seems that it doesn't matter anymore. The more the better. It's like something to be proud of. How many he slept with, that is. But it takes two to tango and it isn't just the youth. Look at the slightly older generation pop culture stars setting the example for their fans to follow. It's just a recipe for disaster, so if we don't at the very least find a way to stop the pregnancy from happening, then we are going to be dealing with a lot more abortion discussions going forward.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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Ending a life due to "bad choices" is called manslaughter.
Depends what you call a life, doesn't it? And you really should take a look at Roe V. Wade before you start trying to claim that abortion is manslaughter.
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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Yes, actually, you can. Life is life.
sure you can but it's subjective. do you value eagle eggs over the value you put on a pregnant woman or are they equal? or is the fetus she carries most valuable?
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Old 04-23-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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Yes, actually, you can. Life is life.
Then all those embryos in IVF clinics are 'life' too, huh? Have you done anything to stop the 'murder' of all those lives?
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