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I got financial aid at 22, I just had to have my own address and not live with my parents. After I was on my own, paying my own rent and bills they judged me independent. My parent's income never came into question.
I lived with roommates in underground inlaw units and wasn't even on the lease. Might be why I got denied.
I think you have underachievers confused with impoverished. Wealth does not make one an overachiever. It can have quite the opposite effect.
That's the real meat of the issue right there.
The the a$$ part of the assumption is that if you don't have a new house and car its because you're lazy and not trying hard enough. But if all those "underachievers" went out and got a "real job" at a firm or in big business and finally "achieved" the country would be a wreck. Why? No cashiers to check your groceries, no laborers picking produce. All those lowley jobs are there because someone has to do it. And if society needs a job to be done, the person doing it deserves enough to live on. Paying a living wage would cure a lot of the problem and ease the need for assistance. The underachiever argument is little more than poor shaming.
The the a$$ part of the assumption is that if you don't have a new house and car its because you're lazy and not trying hard enough. But if all those "underachievers" went out and got a "real job" at a firm or in big business and finally "achieved" the country would be a wreck. Why? No cashiers to check your groceries, no laborers picking produce. All those lowley jobs are there because someone has to do it. And if society needs a job to be done, the person doing it deserves enough to live on. Paying a living wage would cure a lot of the problem and ease the need for assistance. The underachiever argument is little more than poor shaming.
The big problem is how quickly productivity has risen over two hundred years, making more and more humans idle. The OP and their ilk are only concerned about deadbeats and leeches and don't really care about the big picture.
The the a$$ part of the assumption is that if you don't have a new house and car its because you're lazy and not trying hard enough. But if all those "underachievers" went out and got a "real job" at a firm or in big business and finally "achieved" the country would be a wreck. Why? No cashiers to check your groceries, no laborers picking produce. All those lowley jobs are there because someone has to do it. And if society needs a job to be done, the person doing it deserves enough to live on. Paying a living wage would cure a lot of the problem and ease the need for assistance. The underachiever argument is little more than poor shaming.
It starts in education at a young age... The overachievers are held back(no child left behind) They are leaps above those in their class. There is no money spent on them to accel.
The majority of the money is spent on those with no desire to achieve much, but a good time and having fun.
The big problem is how quickly productivity has risen over two hundred years, making more and more humans idle. The OP and their ilk are only concerned about deadbeats and leeches and don't really care about the big picture.
You and your ilk are too ignorant to understand that the big picture is, collectivism has never worked. It has always led to economic ruin everytime.
Pouring taken resources with a boot on the throats of productive Americans, on those that have no desire or ability to be productive. What value is in that?
Our government taxes us with a boot on our throats, just to give it away without accountability to the underachievers.
How much does the government spend on the overachievers? The people that are super smart? The people that will lead this nation into the future?
Is the intent to make the underachievers be achievers? When the actual results is, no one achieves anything.
How does a nation become an economic powerhouse, with a collective mindset? ANSWER? it has never been done and history has proven over and over, it is an utter failure every time it has been tried.
So, in the name of making the US "an economic powerhouse", how do you propose to remedy this? March all the underachievers into ovens and turn on the gas?
BTW, what, exactly, is your definition of an "underachiever"?
You and your ilk are too ignorant to understand that the big picture is, collectivism has never worked. It has always led to economic ruin everytime.
Collectively we have been bailing out Wall Street the last 8 years.
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Pouring taken resources with a boot on the throats of productive Americans, on those that have no desire or ability to be productive. What value is in that?
Much of the assistance programs go to those who are working but not making much. They are doing jobs that have to be performed by someone but are falling further and further behind because of our insistence on continued welfare programs for Wall Street.
It all starts at the top. Quit the welfare programs at the top and those on the bottom quit falling so far behind and then require less from others.
The big problem is how quickly productivity has risen over two hundred years, making more and more humans idle. The OP and their ilk are only concerned about deadbeats and leeches and don't really care about the big picture.
If by 'big picture' you are including long term versus short term, I agree wholeheartedly. The 'short attention span' seems to be a root or underlying problem, & making matters worse, it's often incentivized.
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