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Old 04-27-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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The opinion, by Judge Thomas D. Schroeder of Federal District Court in Winston-Salem, upheld the repeal of a provision that allowed people to register and vote on the same day. It also upheld a seven-day reduction in the early-voting period; the end of preregistration, which allowed some people to sign up before their 18th birthdays; and the repeal of a provision that allowed for the counting of ballots cast outside voters’ home precinct.

Please tell me how the things listed in that quote prevent voter fraud? That's the problem with these 'voter ID' laws, they don't stop at ID's they do everything they can to discourage EVERYTHING except absentee voting which are the biggest source of voter fraud, and that's because reliable republican voters use absentee ballots more than any other group
Why don't you just come out and say exactly how you feel about our military members?
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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Have a national ID card, and when a person turns 18 that is used to vote.
End of story.
We have that. It is called a US Passport.
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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"that's because reliable republican voters use absentee ballots more than any other group" Since you "know" this, I would like to the data you have to support it.
IF it is true, I wouldn't be surprised to find that most of the repub absentee ballots are form the military voters stationed all over the world.
Here you go:

"Absentee voters tend to be older and whiter than in-person voters. In 2012, nearly half, or 46 percent, of mail-in voters were aged 60 and older, and more than 75 percent were white, according to an analysis by Michael McDonald, a political science professor at the University of Florida who tracks demographic trends in voting. Older white Americans generally are more likely to vote Republican"

Republicans are in fact more likely than Democrats to vote absentee. In the 2008 general election in Florida, 47 percent of absentee voters were Republicans and 36 percent were Democrats.

No, most absentee ballots are NOT from military members. I'm not going to waste a lot of time on this, you can do your own research but here is one example: In 2012 37,955 military members requested absentee ballots in Florida, the total number of absentee ballots cast in Florida in 2012 was 2,358,638
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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I will never understand the rationale that requiring an ID to vote is somehow suppressing minorities.

How anyone can get through life without a gov't issued ID is probably a bigger concern. Why don't these people have ID? what are they hiding, or are they truly "off the grid" and live like people did in the 1800's?
Perhaps you could read some of the testimony in the court cases where some of the people affected by these laws explained their circumstances.

Currently Government IDs are not required. I guess if the law was changed to everyone most have a government ID and that the government must guarantee that everyone has it then it wouldn't be as big of an issue.

Many people without ID who are not doing anything nefarious.
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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We have that. It is called a US Passport.
If the Federal government started issuing free passports to everyone born in the US then this would be less of an issue.
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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If the Federal government started issuing free passports to everyone born in the US then this would be less of an issue.
Hey, maybe they should.

Trouble is, a US Passport wouldn't make sense. I live in Illinois, so I should need to reasonably demonstrate that I am indeed a resident of Illinois in order to vote here. What's to stop a person from voting in multiple states? But whatever ID is acceptable, it must be free and the state making the voter ID law must foot the bill if and when complications arise. That's only fair.
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Have a national ID card, and when a person turns 18 that is used to vote.
End of story.

Maybe the SScard should have a picture --again expensive! and a picture of a baby? when they turn 18?
maybe we could have SS buses with cameras etc-- to go through out rural America and ID people- the census go out--why not the SSI--- willing to pay?
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Hey, maybe they should.

Trouble is, a US Passport wouldn't make sense. I live in Illinois, so I should need to reasonably demonstrate that I am indeed a resident of Illinois in order to vote here. What's to stop a person from voting in multiple states? But whatever ID is acceptable, it must be free and the state making the voter ID law must foot the bill if and when complications arise. That's only fair.
I think if a state is going to make it a requirement to have a particular ID to vote then they should assume the responsibility to make sure everyone who wants one gets one. The responsibility should go beyond cost.

I won't attempt to design the system in this post, however perhaps whenever or wherever you register to vote your picture can be taken. For people doing door to door registrations they could be supplied with State supplied cameras or other means to submit photos with the registration.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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Hey, maybe they should.

Trouble is, a US Passport wouldn't make sense. I live in Illinois, so I should need to reasonably demonstrate that I am indeed a resident of Illinois in order to vote here. What's to stop a person from voting in multiple states? But whatever ID is acceptable, it must be free and the state making the voter ID law must foot the bill if and when complications arise. That's only fair.

You would show up with your passport AND a something with your address on it.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I have no idea how adults function without an ID.

I am more concerned about a state that significantly reduces the number of polling places , making voting a challenge and/or a time consuming event for voters.
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