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Old 04-29-2016, 06:02 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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Why wouldn't we? Who actually gives breitbart a shred of credibility other than low information people and the Fox News crowd?

Youll find plenty of those here.
Better than the Marxist/Socialist Nothing But Crap network.
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Why wouldn't we? Who actually gives breitbart a shred of credibility other than low information people and the Fox News crowd?

Youll find plenty of those here.
With that attitude many major discoveries in science and history would never be.


consider all sources and compare information.


low information people ignore shreded credibility like telling us the video caused benghazi, each family will save 2,500$$, shovel ready jobs, isis is the jv team, AQ is on the run, solyndra is a good investment, the world is a more tranquil place, yemen is a shining example of O's ME policy and 'you better not cross this red line i drew in the syrian sand!"...and Mitt didn't pay tax for 10 years!


So who is lacking credibility and who is low info people?


I rememebr when the national enquirer headline read, "Kennedy Assaisinated" right next to the article about a man giving birth. Low credibility true story.


Why would someone not consider all souces for information knowing all sources are biased? Like the cops questioning each member of a gang. they compare and accumulate information. the black and white world of liberal mindset is apparently stunted as they fail to recognize the complexity of issues. Less stress I suppose.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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I'm just going to put this here, since you obviously missed it, and would love this opportunity to "educate" the rest of us on just why you don't agree with the findings that were presented:
Don't hold your breath. The AGW cult members cannot tell us why the conclusions are incorrect, as they have no idea.

There is nothing wrong with the data presented, as it is simply a different graphic depiction of the data which visually demonstrates a far different conclusion.

As is usual with the AGW cult, they will never address the data, but simply attack the source. Why? It is easy to harken to the movie "My Cousin Vinney" and say, "Everything that guy said was bulls*it", rather than actually looking at the data. That would require several moments and some degree of thought, whicht the cult is not willing to expend.
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Why would someone not consider all souces for information knowing all sources are biased? Like the cops questioning each member of a gang. they compare and accumulate information. the black and white world of liberal mindset is apparently stunted as they fail to recognize the complexity of issues. Less stress I suppose.
They have an agenda; more government control. If it doesn't fit the agenda, they don't consider it.
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Canada
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No it's from Breitbart.......................who got it from Tony Heller aka Steven Goddard. No need to whine.
LOL I'd bet that Breitbart has made a lot of $$ perpetuating such info..even tho it goes against 98% of reputable Scientific Community... SO agree 100% :roll eyes: After living almost 7 decades..have learned listen to everything..believe half of it..then apply your own observation..then conclude accuracy...LOL

Plus personal observations means 98% ( scientist versus - Fossil Fuel lobbyist funded so called scientists 2%) > means likelihood is 98% that Climate IS CHANGING for the worse .. After decades of denial..When will these politically funded folks going to learn? Fossil fuel has been funding this for almost half century!! SMH

Breithart has been getting RICH by promoting their ignorant biased bought and paid for analysis...none of which has actually done one LICK OF actual RESEARCH...
Exxon Makes Billion-Dollar Bet Climate Change is Real, Here Now and Going to Get Worse But Keeps Funding Deniers
BY JOE ROMM & CLIMATE GUEST CONTRIBUTOR SEP 10, 2011 1:44 PM

Exxon Makes Billion-Dollar Bet Climate Change is Real, Here Now and Going to Get Worse But Keeps Funding Deniers | ThinkProgress

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/bu...rbon.html?_r=0

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WASHINGTON — More than two dozen of the nation’s biggest corporations, including the five major oil companies, are planning their future growth on the expectation that the government will force them to pay a price for carbon pollution as a way to control global warming.

The development is a striking departure from conservative orthodoxy and a reflection of growing divisions between the Republican Party and its business supporters.

A new report by the environmental data company CDP has found that at least 29 companies, some with close ties to Republicans, including Exxon Mobil, Walmart and American Electric Power, are incorporating a price on carbon into their long-term financial plans.
Did ExxonMobil Just Admit It’s Still Funding Climate Science Deniers?
11/23/2015 09:07 am ET | Updated Dec 10, 2015

Did ExxonMobil Just Admit It's Still Funding Climate Science Deniers?
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:57 PM
 
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Exxon Makes Billion-Dollar Bet Climate Change is Real,

Exxon is going to profit with or without climate legislation, it's the consumer that will pay the cost of it. Considering they are major developer of gas fields which is the only thing that will replace coal they could expand their operations exponentially.
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:09 PM
 
Location: louisville
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Don't hold your breath. The AGW cult members cannot tell us why the conclusions are incorrect, as they have no idea.

There is nothing wrong with the data presented, as it is simply a different graphic depiction of the data which visually demonstrates a far different conclusion.

As is usual with the AGW cult, they will never address the data, but simply attack the source. Why? It is easy to harken to the movie "My Cousin Vinney" and say, "Everything that guy said was bulls*it", rather than actually looking at the data. That would require several moments and some degree of thought, whicht the cult is not willing to expend.
They will just google more stuff and then exclaim 'science'.

I'm so over these threads.

Hope 'it' took a lick from your T cells.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:53 PM
 
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You've been told more times than I can remember, and you still don't get it. You never will, no matter how many times you are told.
The fact that science deniers believe anti-science conspiracy blogs like 'Steve Goddard' and Breitbart journalists like James Delingpole are valid sources and never fact-check any of the ridiculous conspiratorial accusations, yet automatically reject valid science sources out of hand, pretty much says it all about their extreme confirmation bias, their self-imposed ignorance, and their willingness to delude themselves.
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Old 04-30-2016, 10:19 PM
 
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Don't hold your breath. The AGW cult members cannot tell us why the conclusions are incorrect, as they have no idea.

There is nothing wrong with the data presented, as it is simply a different graphic depiction of the data which visually demonstrates a far different conclusion.

As is usual with the AGW cult, they will never address the data, but simply attack the source. Why? It is easy to harken to the movie "My Cousin Vinney" and say, "Everything that guy said was bulls*it", rather than actually looking at the data. That would require several moments and some degree of thought, whicht the cult is not willing to expend.
It's not surprising you want people to automatically accept crap sources like conspiracy blogs, junk-science websites and press articles by laypeople journalists as those are the only sources you ever use. You enthusiastically gulp these down like they are mother's milk, yet automatically reject out of hand any valid science sources.

Doing a little fact-checking, (something you never seem to do as that would take several moments, some degree of thought, honesty and scientific integrity - which you lack in spades), shows that "Steve Goddard" aka pathological liar conspiracy blogger Tony Heller, is full of bull****, as usual.

'Steve' conveniently left out the fact that one of his worshipping conspiracy followers got the 'old style map' from a forum from a poster called Fred aka Dungeon Master, not an 'unscrubbed copy left lying around on the NSIDC website' as he falsely claimed:
"Here are some graphs from the Arctic – automatically saved here, and some of them archived Enjoy! Fred aka DungeonMaster on http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/."


If "Steve" aka Tony had bothered to check the facts first before doing his usual dishonest shtick of claiming 'FRAUD!', he would have gone to the NSIDC website for find the relevant information:

https://nsidc.org/data/nsidc-0611

https://nsidc.org/data/docs/daac/nsi...motion.gd.html

EASE-Grid Sea Ice Age

Polar Pathfinder Daily 25 km EASE-Grid Sea Ice Motion Vectors, Version 3


It's no surprise that Brietbart journalist James Delingpole used a junkscience conspiracy blog as a source and didn't bother to do any fact checking himself first before accusing NSIDC scientists of "FRAUD!!!!" That would take honesty and integrity. This is how all those false accusations gain ground with science deniers- they automatically and completely un-sceptically accept these sort of dishonest accusations as factual because it's what they want to believe.

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