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Old 04-29-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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I'm not sure I'd call any candidate running for either established party honest. i will say Sen Sanders has raised important issues that only a few on the right have even bother to bring up (and they aren't running for president)....however, he either lacks clear vision on how to handle those issues or his vision is diluted reality.

In regards to Trump paying lip service to Sen Sanders, he's just pandering, in hopes to appeal to the conservative leaning Bernie Bots.
Your opinion doesn't make positions of others not realistic.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Your opinion doesn't make positions of others not realistic.
lol - tell that to all of C-D.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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He said he has people in Hawaii "that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding". Oh, really? Well, we know that was a lie.

http://youtu.be/Blckpwk1voQ

In 2011, Donald Trump was caught red-handed in a lie about the investigation into the President's birth certificate and nobody called him on it.

This should be a bombshell issue in the 2016 campaign.

Donald Trump should be pressed now, during this campaign, to answer exactly whatever happened to those unbelievable findings?

How could something unbelievable that Trump claimed was already found, suddenly disappear when President Obama released his long form birth certificate?

You cannot retract from existence something you already claimed existed unless you were lying.

A person who lies about an inquiry into whether a sitting president is legitimately allowed to hold the office of president, is unfit to be elected president themselves.

Trump needs to be pressed by the media and the democratic nominee (hopefully during a debate) to answer this FULLY. Not dodge, deflect or distract. Answer the question.

In regards to Obama's birth certificate, where did these alleged "findings" of his "people" that "they cannot believe" disappear to?
So you are upset that he didn't say anything? Really? You rather he said something false? You liberals are weird...
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Shankapotomus View Post
He said he has people in Hawaii "that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding". Oh, really? Well, we know that was a lie.

http://youtu.be/Blckpwk1voQ

In 2011, Donald Trump was caught red-handed in a lie about the investigation into the President's birth certificate and nobody called him on it.

This should be a bombshell issue in the 2016 campaign.

Donald Trump should be pressed now, during this campaign, to answer exactly whatever happened to those unbelievable findings?

How could something unbelievable that Trump claimed was already found, suddenly disappear when President Obama released his long form birth certificate?

You cannot retract from existence something you already claimed existed unless you were lying.

A person who lies about an inquiry into whether a sitting president is legitimately allowed to hold the office of president, is unfit to be elected president themselves.

Trump needs to be pressed by the media and the democratic nominee (hopefully during a debate) to answer this FULLY. Not dodge, deflect or distract. Answer the question.

In regards to Obama's birth certificate, where did these alleged "findings" of his "people" that "they cannot believe" disappear to?
Trumps finding is that he found a certificate of birth with no name , no signature and no numbers to verify Obama being truly born in Hawaii. Trump said what his findings were that made him doubt Obama.. Obama came up with a birth certificate and Trump took it as real.. so what is the big deal now.. foolish thread.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Trumps finding is that he found a certificate of birth with no name , no signature and no numbers to verify Obama being truly born in Hawaii. Trump said what his findings were that made him doubt Obama.. Obama came up with a birth certificate and Trump took it as real.. so what is the big deal now.. foolish thread.
Do you know how long it took Obama to produce his certificate? My recollection is it took sometime.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Shankapotomus View Post
He said he has people in Hawaii "that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding". Oh, really? Well, we know that was a lie.

http://youtu.be/Blckpwk1voQ

In 2011, Donald Trump was caught red-handed in a lie about the investigation into the President's birth certificate and nobody called him on it.

This should be a bombshell issue in the 2016 campaign.

Donald Trump should be pressed now, during this campaign, to answer exactly whatever happened to those unbelievable findings?

How could something unbelievable that Trump claimed was already found, suddenly disappear when President Obama released his long form birth certificate?

You cannot retract from existence something you already claimed existed unless you were lying.

A person who lies about an inquiry into whether a sitting president is legitimately allowed to hold the office of president, is unfit to be elected president themselves.

Trump needs to be pressed by the media and the democratic nominee (hopefully during a debate) to answer this FULLY. Not dodge, deflect or distract. Answer the question.

In regards to Obama's birth certificate, where did these alleged "findings" of his "people" that "they cannot believe" disappear to?
What can Trump do when President Obama was always 2 steps ahead of getting rid of his history records. Most likely all the talk as produced many questions, but the little thing called "proof" has all been destroyed.


Why do you think President Obama is keeping this story going?
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Trumps finding is that he found a certificate of birth with no name , no signature and no numbers to verify Obama being truly born in Hawaii. .
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No that was the short form birth certificate. Trump's people didn't find that. It had been publicly available for years.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Broken promises are not the same as being caught in a bold-faced and completely untrue lie, as the video shows Trump was.
This is more like an example of an "empty" promise. Just like the vague empty promises Trump is making now.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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No that was the short form birth certificate. Trump's people didn't find that. It had been publicly available for years.
In the United States in order to get a passport you must show a long form birth certificate. The short form is not good enough.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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What can Trump do when President Obama was always 2 steps ahead of getting rid of his history records. Most likely all the talk as produced many questions, but the little thing called "proof" has all been destroyed.

Why do you think President Obama is keeping this story going?
Oh yes, the "no evidence *now* proves that there used to be evidence *then*" trope. Wins arguments all the time.
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