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Old 04-29-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Even mainstream media is accepting the fact.





http://www.bloomberg.com/articles/20...disappointment

And this is written by ex-president of Fed Minneapolis.

Here is a long interview with Obama on economy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/ma...gacy.html?_r=0

Horrible legacy!!!
Hmm, I would say that the CBO is not very good at forecasting. And what do you think the economic numbers would have been with a Republican president the last 8 years? You don't know, there is no way to know. So you cannot really say whether the economy under Obama is worse, better, or the same as it would have been with another president.

It is a pointless analysis, and I am not saying that with political bias - I always thought that it was silly to give Bill Clinton credit for the booming economy during his years in office. The economy goes up and down and a lot of that has little to do with who is sitting in the white house.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:01 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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I'm amazed that so many people think the president can just sign an order in the oval office saying "Economy, Be Good!" As if Obama is responsible for festering problems that have been going on for 40 years.

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For some people, if their dog has fleas or their roof leaks, it must be Obama's fault. That is just how it is.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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ISIS is a problem of the current administration. Let's not be like Obama, blame Bush for everything. It doesn't work. His administration has to take ownership of something.
Bush CHOSE to invade Iraq without provocation in 2003, nearly 6 years before Obama took office. Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq having WMDs in order to get Congress to fund the war because there was absolutely no link to the 9/11 terrorism. Not a single WMD was found in 2003, and NONE have been found since. Not a single shred of evidence has been found yet linking Hussein to 9/11 although it appears that perhaps the Saudis did have some and that those were covered up by the Bush administration.

It was the US invasion of Iraq that destabilized the entire area and gave rise to ISIS. The ownership of the Iraq war and the rise of ISIS is all on George W Bush, Dick Cheney, and their pals.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:27 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Bush CHOSE to invade Iraq without provocation in 2003, nearly 6 years before Obama took office. Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq having WMDs in order to get Congress to fund the war because there was absolutely no link to the 9/11 terrorism. Not a single WMD was found in 2003, and NONE have been found since. Not a single shred of evidence has been found yet linking Hussein to 9/11 although it appears that perhaps the Saudis did have some and that those were covered up by the Bush administration.

It was the US invasion of Iraq that destabilized the entire area and gave rise to ISIS. The ownership of the Iraq war and the rise of ISIS is all on George W Bush, Dick Cheney, and their pals.
It was Obama decide to withdraw from IRAQ to say close to his base that's left a hole. While I now think we were misled to go into IRAQ, we can't keep go back to blame that decision. Obama has been president for nearly 8 years, the ownership is with him because he is the president NOW. But the decision with Syrian and Lybia have made the situation worse.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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I'm amazed that so many people think the president can just sign an order in the oval office saying "Economy, Be Good!" As if Obama is responsible for festering problems that have been going on for 40 years.

People seem to have no understanding of what the president's actual powers are. They will be very disappointed when Donald Trump becomes president and finds that he cannot just WILL the economy to be strong, that he cannot unilaterally re-negotiate trade agreements or that there will be severe consequences when he tries. Nor can he engage a construction project and somehow bully another country's legislature to fund it.
While I agree with you, don't you find it strange that someone who can't really impact the economy all that much is quick to take credit for saving the world?
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: DFW
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What can you expect form a Socialist?

One bright note, the gun industry is doing very well.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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Bush left this country in a real MESS. You must be living in another country if you missed it.
Sorry, all you GOP morons but quit trying to rewrite history. We know the truth. I guess you also think that Bush kept us safe like his dumb brother said to Trump. Democrats seem to be the clean up crew after a Republican leaves office....
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Originally Posted by Linda_d View Post
Bush CHOSE to invade Iraq without provocation in 2003, nearly 6 years before Obama took office. Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq having WMDs in order to get Congress to fund the war because there was absolutely no link to the 9/11 terrorism. Not a single WMD was found in 2003, and NONE have been found since. Not a single shred of evidence has been found yet linking Hussein to 9/11 although it appears that perhaps the Saudis did have some and that those were covered up by the Bush administration.

It was the US invasion of Iraq that destabilized the entire area and gave rise to ISIS. The ownership of the Iraq war and the rise of ISIS is all on George W Bush, Dick Cheney, and their pals.

While many would agree that the invasion of Iraq was an error, one can't reasonably blame Bush for the destabilizaton of Libya, Syria, Sudan, Egypt, etc. Most of that is related to actions by the current administration and the former SOS.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Bush left this country in a real MESS. You must be living in another country if you missed it.
Sorry, all you GOP morons but quit trying to rewrite history. We know the truth. I guess you also think that Bush kept us safe like his dumb brother said to Trump. Democrats seem to be the clean up crew after a Republican leaves office....
Keep telling yourself that!
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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While many would agree that the invasion of Iraq was an error, one can't reasonably blame Bush for the destabilizaton of Libya, Syria, Sudan, Egypt, etc. Most of that is related to actions by the current administration and the former SOS.
BS, these are borderline failed states, some made worse by severe droughts that forced crowding and unrest in the cities. The Iraq war was catalytic here too. I give the Obama admin credit for keeping the US response task oriented and not full scale. Lord knows what Bush or Trump would do.
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