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02-14-2008, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by macmeal
Believing in a supreme being makes more sense to me than believing things just "are" and "were", because 'that's the way it is". THAT, to me, is much harder to visualize than a "God".
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I believe we're here because of a lucky strike that happened eons ago. Science offers me more to believe in than religion. It's not perfect, but then again, neither am I.
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02-14-2008, 02:10 PM
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Atheism is not a religion
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Originally Posted by macmeal
I know what you mean. A few doses of all that religious 'fluff' can surely make one anxious to get back to the everyday sanity and sensibility of good, basic human-level reasoning. Thanks for that refreshing 'slap in the face'....Think I'll go watch the elections.... 
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Don't forget your barf-bag. The elections are getting pretty sickening. 
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02-14-2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RoaminRed
Oh my god, how could I not see the light? Of course, it's so obvious that since I wasn't present during the Civil War that there must be a god. Thank you all for changing my mind so convincingly. Praise Jesus.
Why do I suddenly have the urge to eat bad crackers and drink grape juice?
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Okay, that didn't make sense.
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02-14-2008, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by paperhouse
I believe we're here because of a lucky strike that happened eons ago. Science offers me more to believe in than religion. It's not perfect, but then again, neither am I.
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Must have been a very, very lucky strike to form all that it did. The human circulatory system should be enough to convince you that there must have been a creator.
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02-14-2008, 03:04 PM
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Keep the Illegals, Deport the Republicans
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Neither the Argument from Complexity nor the Argument from Design holds any actual water. An Argument from Personal Incredulity even less so...
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02-14-2008, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by paperhouse
I believe we're here because of a lucky strike that happened eons ago. Science offers me more to believe in than religion. It's not perfect, but then again, neither am I.
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This is one of the more coherent posts I've read. I fail to see, though why you have to choose between science and religion. (I'm not familiar with ALL religions, of course). But I see no conflict, anymore than I see between architects and bricklayers. They both work 'different sides of the street', IMO. I believe God "made stuff", and scientists explain how it works...no conflict there, IMO.
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02-14-2008, 05:31 PM
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I was going to make a post, but this discussion has just turned into a sermon (which is what I think the original intent was anyway).
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02-14-2008, 05:42 PM
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If God is displeased with the US government, that would speak rather poorly of George W. Bush, head of the government, and a man who claims to be a dedicated servant of God.
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02-14-2008, 05:43 PM
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Atheism is not a religion
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Originally Posted by terribletomcat
Okay, that didn't make sense.
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Incredible! That's exactly what I've been thinking about your posts. 
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02-14-2008, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tablemtn
If God is displeased with the US government, that would speak rather poorly of George W. Bush, head of the government, and a man who claims to be a dedicated servant of God.
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He does make such claims, you are quite correct. He ALSO has a reputation among friends AND enemies alike, as a man who "can't be swayed" and "doesn't take advice".....so, if God called, would He get through?....
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