Is God pleased with the US government? (Virginia, million, Muslim)

[Blue Grass Fever]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

Do you think the US government is being led by God or Satan?

Satan.....by far.

Hypocrisy at its finest!

[mhouse2001]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

Doesn't it make you sad to feel that way? I can assure you with absolute certainty that there is an afterlife. Hell is just as real as Heaven. I guarantee you that if you find a quiet place, get on your knees, and just open your heart to the one that is watching over us, your confidence in what you just wrote will be shaken. God doesn't want anyone to go to hell, but he won't force you to believe and go to Heaven either.

Off topic in a way, but I couldn't resist. So, if one is arguing about the afterlife there's two beliefs (there is, there isn't) and two realities (there is, there isn't). Let's intersect them and see where it goes...

1) Believe in afterlife, die, then there is no afterlife. Well, you won't know that you were wrong.
2) Don't believe in afterlife, die, then there is no afterlife. Well, you won't know that you were right.
3) Believe in afterlife, die, then there is an afterlife. Great, you were right all along.
4) Don't believe in afterlife, die, then there is an afterlife. Kind of embarrassing isn't it?

Obviously then it makes sense to believe in (and prepare for) an afterlife.

But, back on subject, there is no personality that is "God" but I'm sure if there was, s/he'd be really upset at America for having morals that it always fails to adhere to.

[Marodi]

I think bush is a douchebag and a horrible president, but that has nothing to do with morality. I'd say he's following the FSM.

Originally Posted by mhouse2001

Off topic in a way, but I couldn't resist. So, if one is arguing about the afterlife there's two beliefs (there is, there isn't) and two realities (there is, there isn't). Let's intersect them and see where it goes...

1) Believe in afterlife, die, then there is no afterlife. Well, you won't know that you were wrong.
2) Don't believe in afterlife, die, then there is no afterlife. Well, you won't know that you were right.
3) Believe in afterlife, die, then there is an afterlife. Great, you were right all along.
4) Don't believe in afterlife, die, then there is an afterlife. Kind of embarrassing isn't it?

Obviously then it makes sense to believe in (and prepare for) an afterlife.

But, back on subject, there is no personality that is "God" but I'm sure if there was, s/he'd be really upset at America for having morals that it always fails to adhere to.

It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.”
-Dr. Carl Sagan

[saganista]

Originally Posted by mhouse2001

Off topic in a way, but I couldn't resist. So, if one is arguing about the afterlife there's two beliefs (there is, there isn't) and two realities (there is, there isn't). Let's intersect them and see where it goes...

1) Believe in afterlife, die, then there is no afterlife. Well, you won't know that you were wrong.
2) Don't believe in afterlife, die, then there is no afterlife. Well, you won't know that you were right.
3) Believe in afterlife, die, then there is an afterlife. Great, you were right all along.
4) Don't believe in afterlife, die, then there is an afterlife. Kind of embarrassing isn't it?

Obviously then it makes sense to believe in (and prepare for) an afterlife.

A variant on Pascal's Wager. Of course, it leaves out the possibility that if God does exist, He quite purposely gave us a brain and then made very sure to conceal every trace of His ever having been here, fully hoping and expecting that we would use our brains to figure out how to live on our own. In that case, the people who are really ticking Him off are all those who disrespect this great brain gift of His and believe in Him anyway. Straight to Hell with the lot of those folks. God Himself is an atheist, after all...isn't it rather likely that He would want to surround Himself with more of the same???

[TristansMommy]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

I believe that the true purpose of human life is to follow the Lord and do his will. I think that this country was founded on those Christian values but they are no where to be found today. Do you think the US government is being led by God or Satan?

Ironically I think it's religion WHY Bush got into office for the second time in a row.. The Bible Belt are strong for the Republican conservative and is where Bush won over a lot of votes.

I don't feel religion has any place in government.. I"m not "religious" but I am spiritual.. for the record.

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

I believe that the true purpose of human life is to follow the Lord and do his will. I think that this country was founded on those Christian values but they are no where to be found today. Do you think the US government is being led by God or Satan?

I disagree with your first, second, and third claims. I also think that your question is irrelevant to reality.

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

This is what I mean. There is only one God.

Prove it.

It doesn't matter which religion you claim or who you worship, God doesn't change.

Prove it.

Jesus was the son of God and lived on earth at one point.

Prove the first half of that sentence.

The people who founded this country believed that.

Not all of them and when they founded this country they made is very clear that no one religion is to dominate in this country's legal matters.

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But now, the people in control of this country feel just like you stated that God should not be in any decision that affects this country.

God absolutely shouldn't be part of decisions that affect this country per the US Constitution.

That is why this country and the entire world will continue to sink further down.

I see the world today as a far better place than 240 years ago.

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

Do you honestly deep down in your heart believe that? If so, what do you think happens to you when you die?

Yes and nothing.

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

Doesn't it make you sad to feel that way?

No. Appeals to emotion are unnecessary.

I can assure you with absolute certainty that there is an afterlife.

I've got a bridge to see you.

Hell is just as real as Heaven. I guarantee you that if you find a quiet place, get on your knees, and just open your heart to the one that is watching over us, your confidence in what you just wrote will be shaken. God doesn't want anyone to go to hell, but he won't force you to believe and go to Heaven either.

It's a very nice bridge. Would you like it? Nothing down and easy monthly payments!

[Nietzschean Gangsta]

Originally Posted by terribletomcat

I believe that the true purpose of human life is to follow the Lord and do his will.

There is no purpose to human existence.