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Old 06-28-2008, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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you are wrong. people are born gay, but homosexual acts are a choice. just as heterosexual acts are a choice.

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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Not necessarily.
What about all of these Republican political figures who have been living a lie of being straight..
What about the countless others who have been forced to maintain a lie for fear of their livelihoods and in some cases, their lives?

What is the gay “lifestyle” – what do they do differently from straights, other than in the privacy of their bedrooms?

Why aren’t all people granted the same rights in the US?



People are born gay or straight.
There’s no control.

Doesn’t meet your requirements? Too bad.
Ever consider being with someone of the same sex? Then you know how gay and lesbian people feel about being with the opposite sex.
It’s not a choice, just like color, gender or the country you’re born in.

Don’t ask others to not enjoy sexual relations unless you are willing to give that up for yourself.
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:00 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Default I'm not mad at you guys......

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Originally Posted by chielgirl View Post
Not necessarily.
What about all of these Republican political figures who have been living a lie of being straight..
What about the countless others who have been forced to maintain a lie for fear of their livelihoods and in some cases, their lives?

What is the gay “lifestyle” – what do they do differently from straights, other than in the privacy of their bedrooms?

Why aren’t all people granted the same rights in the US?



People are born gay or straight.
There’s no control.

Doesn’t meet your requirements? Too bad.
Ever consider being with someone of the same sex? Then you know how gay and lesbian people feel about being with the opposite sex.
It’s not a choice, just like color, gender or the country you’re born in.

Don’t ask others to not enjoy sexual relations unless you are willing to give that up for yourself.
Chielgirl....nodixieforme.....jfre81...TheDagonsla yer..TwiloMike I'm not mad at either one of you the "gist" of my [post] was that the "Federal Government" is not going to give you the same rights as a Heterosexual Married Couple and all of you totally avoided discussing that point. Neither
Heterosexuals or Homosexuals are born with the urges to engage in Heter-osexual or Homosexuals acts that usually comes about in theri's "teen"
years and "sometimes" outside factors weight a big part in that decision...
such as Homosexual molestation and rape.Another important point that i made was that probably that all "Married" men have wanted to have sexual relations with a woman or women who wasn't their's wife , but some totally avoided it be exercising self restraint show me a man who was born "AND ONLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ONE WOMAN....and i will even go further "SHOW ME A HOMOSEXUAL WHO ONLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH (1) ONE OTHER HOMOSEXUAL we having 'polygamy urges" can adjust ours activities by sheer will power and be "momogamy case closed.
I don't care if homosexual have homosexual sex among themselves outside of a Marriage , you protrayed me totally wrong on that count the (OP)posed the question of what's wrong with Homosexual Marriage"Right".
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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Chielgirl....nodixieforme.....jfre81...TheDagonsla yer..TwiloMike I'm not mad at either one of you the "gist" of my [post] was that the "Federal Government" is not going to give you the same rights as a Heterosexual Married Couple and all of you totally avoided discussing that point.
I didn't see that point made. The Federal government will eventually grant equal rights- once the proper test case is found.

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Neither Heterosexuals or Homosexuals are born with the urges to engage in Heter-osexual or Homosexuals acts that usually comes about in theri's "teen" years
Desire to engage in sexual acts falls under the umbrella of attraction. Whether people realize at birth for which gender they will have sexual attraction once they realize they have it, is irrelevant. Sexual attraction is not chosen... unless you chose to be attracted to the gender to which you are attracted. Did you?

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and "sometimes" outside factors weight a big part in that decision...such as Homosexual molestation and rape.
Irrelevant to this discussion. Civil rights don't hinge on this.

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Another important point that i made was that probably that all "Married" men have wanted to have sexual relations with a woman or women who wasn't their's wife , but some totally avoided it be exercising self restraint show me a man who was born "AND ONLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH ONE WOMAN....and i will even go further "SHOW ME A HOMOSEXUAL WHO ONLY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH (1) ONE OTHER HOMOSEXUAL we having 'polygamy urges" can adjust ours activities by sheer will power and be "momogamy case closed.
Will you please adjust your use of punctuation to make your posts more more clear and more easily readable?

What difference does any of the above make in terms of with how many partners one wants to have sex? To the marriage debate it is entirely irrelevant.

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I don't care if homosexual have homosexual sex among themselves outside of a Marriage , you protrayed me totally wrong on that count the (OP)posed the question of what's wrong with Homosexual Marriage"Right".
Did I even address anything of the sort from you?
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:20 PM
 
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I didn't see that point made. The Federal government will eventually grant equal rights- once the proper test case is found.

Desire to engage in sexual acts falls under the umbrella of attraction. Whether people realize at birth for which gender they will have sexual attraction once they realize they have it, is irrelevant. Sexual attraction is not chosen... unless you chose to be attracted to the gender to which you are attracted. Did you?

Irrelevant to this discussion. Civil rights don't hinge on this.

Will you please adjust your use of punctuation to make your posts more more clear and more easily readable?

What difference does any of the above make in terms of with how many partners one wants to have sex? To the marriage debate it is entirely irrelevant.

Did I even address anything of the sort from you?
His post was too incoherent, so I didn't bother trying to respond.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Really... what would happen if homosexuals were allowed to marry? If you oppose it, why?
Nothing, they would get married then live their lives like everyone else does. The world won't collapse into chaos because homosexuals are given the basic right of marriage.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:24 PM
 
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108 pages of pure gayness none that I read by the way

All marriage is pointless and should be abolished. But I digress...

What it comes down to is who the hell cares? If someone wants to get married let them. I think its bull crap that we have to vote or have some sort of hearing to give people rights.
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:20 PM
 
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108 pages of pure gayness none that I read by the way

All marriage is pointless and should be abolished. But I digress...

What it comes down to is who the hell cares? If someone wants to get married let them. I think its bull crap that we have to vote or have some sort of hearing to give people rights.
I absolutely agree. The issue is overblown and ridiculous now.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Nothing, they would get married then live their lives like everyone else does. The world won't collapse into chaos because homosexuals are given the basic right of marriage.
It has already been mentioned here before, but to those who have trouble absorbing information... marriage is not a "right."
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:30 AM
 
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It has already been mentioned here before, but to those who have trouble absorbing information... marriage is not a "right."
That's easy for you to state, since you've never had it denied.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with gay marriage.

It's just the only place that bigots can play these days, since the laws that prohibit hate speech do not protect gays the way those laws protect blacks, women, minorities, the aged, religion and nationality from hate speech.

Until the law is widened to protect gays from hate speech and acts of hate, we will hear how wrong it is, etc. All this crap coming from the mouths of Dobson, Robertson, the late Jerry Falwell, etc, is done SOLELY to raise money from gullible, bigoted people.

Historical parallel: There used to be LAWS in our nation prohibiting inter-racial marriage. Those laws were swept away decades ago, and once they were that form of bigotry ended. Bigotry against gays is about the last form of bigotry left to close down.
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