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Old 02-14-2008, 03:24 PM
 
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Illinois University Alerts Students to Possible Gunman on Campus
Thursday, February 14, 2008

Northern Illinois University issued an alert on its Web site Thursday to notify students of a possible gunman on campus.

"There has been a report of a possible gunman on campus," according to the alert. "Get to a safe area and take precautions until given the all clear. Avoid the King Commons and all buildings in that vicinity."

DeKalb Police Department says there are reports of multiple people shot.

FOXNews.com - Several People Reported Shot at Northern Illinois University - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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Two in what? Two years. A lotta hype, nothing more. But I suppose this what your looking for, "Ban all guns, they are bad, America is a terribally violent place and I don't feel safe."
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:41 PM
 
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Reported White male dressed in all black. Another Neo wanna-be I'm sure. Big suprise.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:43 PM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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Said he opened fire with a shotgun in one of the lecture halls there. Hospitals have been notified to expect at least 15 injured.
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:10 PM
 
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These sorts of unprovoked spree shootings have been on the rise in the US over the last year. This seems to be becoming an angrier nation less-able to cope with its own crazies.
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:52 PM
 
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More & more looneybirds are noticing theres places they can safely shoot people until their satiated. Blame the "gun free" zones.

These crazies could be dealt with fine if people were allowed to defend themselves. More victims of the anti gun movement.
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:58 PM
 
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The fundamental problem is that people shouldn't have to carry firearms in order to protect themselves on a college campus. Perhaps they do, since America now has so many violent crazies, but that'd be a sad commentary on the state of the country.

When's the last time you heard of someone going on a shooting rampage at a university in Japan, for example?

I have a CCW and use it, but again, the fundamental problem is that, in a "good" society, I simply should not have to.

It's like living in a city with an untreated water system where you have to boil or chemically treat the water to make it safe. Then your stove breaks. Your PROXIMATE problem is a broken stove. Your FUNDAMENTAL problem is that you live in a crappy town that can't even keep its own water safe.

See what I mean?
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:05 PM
 
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It is horrible. Northern lllinois is in DeKalb, a small community west of the Chicago Metro Area. I just have to wonder why kids are more and more stressed and violent? What as a society are we doing wrong? I'm in the middle of the book 19 Minutes and have been often reflecting on the past high school and college shootings, and now here is another. Has anyone done studies on the families these shooters come from? Is there a common thread? I would really be interested to hear some expert information on the backgrounds. Any FBI profilers on the forum? I'm sure our lives will be flooded with information about the shooting in the coming days. The big question is why does this keep happening?
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:32 PM
 
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The fundamental problem is that people shouldn't have to carry firearms in order to protect themselves on a college campus. Perhaps they do, since America now has so many violent crazies, but that'd be a sad commentary on the state of the country.

When's the last time you heard of someone going on a shooting rampage at a university in Japan, for example?

I have a CCW and use it, but again, the fundamental problem is that, in a "good" society, I simply should not have to.

It's like living in a city with an untreated water system where you have to boil or chemically treat the water to make it safe. Then your stove breaks. Your PROXIMATE problem is a broken stove. Your FUNDAMENTAL problem is that you live in a crappy town that can't even keep its own water safe.

See what I mean?
I agree to an extent. These things do happen in other countries with stricter gun laws tho. Germany, Uk, Canada among others.

Personally, & this is just my opinion, I think its because they know they can & because its glorified by the media. Kids who 10 or 20 years ago would have commited suicide now would rather go out with a bang. Helping it along is the absence of good parenting in this day of nanny care & parents to busy to really know their kids.

But all the deep social issues aside I think the biggest problem, both here & regarding violent crime in general, is that a person with evil in his heart can simply walk into a crowded school or almost anyplace & just start killing people without fear of serious resistance. The idea that people like you & I & millions of others that have jumped thru the hoops & passed all kinds of backround checks & training to obtain licenses or permits to carry firearms on our persons are a danger to our children or anyone is absurd.
If there were permit holders in that school who would have been carrying if not for the law or school policy then either the body responsible for the law or the school should be held liable for this tragedy. Not Americas gun owners.

People being the unpredictable critters we are will always hurt or kill other people. As such its silly to think legislating things like guns will matter.
Amnesty for a person shooting an armed assailant would help more I think.
Put some fear into the bad guys for a change.
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:40 PM
 
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Another shooting in a gun-free zone in a state with some of the strictest gun laws. Does anybody see a pattern? Where are the school shootings in Arizona, Vermont, Alaska? The areas with loose gun laws or none at all? Strange how people can be all for banning guns after things like this, but they don't see what the real problem is.
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